Comments on: The Loneliness of the Long Distance Blogger http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/05/02/the-lonliness-of-the-long-distance-blogger/ Jamyang Norbu's blog Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:06:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: snowman http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/05/02/the-lonliness-of-the-long-distance-blogger/#comment-950 snowman Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:34:22 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=18#comment-950 JamYang And woeser Both writers( Jamyang and Woeser) could not understand Tibetan Language well, that why they never considered a Tibetan writer writing in own language., as well as Tibetan who use other language instead of Tibetan Lang, also chinese government want all Tibetans become people who cannot use their own mother tongue, like Woeser,and Jamyang Norbu... JamYang And woeser

Both writers( Jamyang and Woeser) could not understand Tibetan Language well, that why they never considered a Tibetan writer writing in own language., as well as Tibetan who use other language instead of Tibetan Lang, also chinese government want all Tibetans become people who cannot use their own mother tongue, like Woeser,and Jamyang Norbu…

]]> By: Rich http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/05/02/the-lonliness-of-the-long-distance-blogger/#comment-629 Rich Thu, 15 May 2008 20:03:36 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=18#comment-629 Woser's original writing is in Chinese, not Tibetan. From what I've heard she speaks Tibetan but cannot read and write, or at least not well enough to use the language for blogging. Woser’s original writing is in Chinese, not Tibetan. From what I’ve heard she speaks Tibetan but cannot read and write, or at least not well enough to use the language for blogging.

]]> By: Losal Gyatso Sakya http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/05/02/the-lonliness-of-the-long-distance-blogger/#comment-627 Losal Gyatso Sakya Thu, 15 May 2008 17:39:25 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=18#comment-627 I read few of Woeser's writings and was very impressed. A friend told me that the translation into English, as happens often, is not very accurate and the flow of her writing is lost. It will help many of us if you can provide us with information or link to her blog in English (translation)or in Tibetan. Thank you for bringing and introducing Woeser to your readers. I read few of Woeser’s writings and was very impressed. A friend told me that the translation into English, as happens often, is not very accurate and the flow of her writing is lost.

It will help many of us if you can provide us with information or link to her blog in English (translation)or in Tibetan.

Thank you for bringing and introducing Woeser to your readers.

]]> By: Nawang http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/05/02/the-lonliness-of-the-long-distance-blogger/#comment-427 Nawang Tue, 06 May 2008 15:23:52 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=18#comment-427 Let us keep all these forbidden truths in writing,images or whatever is possible because the Chinese people will one day, want to look back to see these barbaric historical acts done on their name. Few of my friends were telling me, that we Tibetans need to play their games,although we know it is non-sense, but to the non-sense, we need to communicate in non-sensible ways, may be only then we can take then we can let them see the Reality....... Norbu lak, We deeply appreciate every single day for your invaluable freindship and guidance, for the ohnesty and openess, truth that you represent in all of us. Thanks you for bringing Woeser, whose hearts touched mine and millions to come.... Tibetans will live strong and prosper because our 'Hearts are Together" Let us keep all these forbidden truths in writing,images or whatever is possible because the Chinese people will one day, want to look back to see these barbaric historical acts done on their name.
Few of my friends were telling me, that we Tibetans need to play their games,although we know it is non-sense, but to the non-sense, we need to communicate in non-sensible ways, may be only then we can take then we can let them see the Reality…….

Norbu lak,
We deeply appreciate every single day for your invaluable freindship and guidance, for the ohnesty and openess, truth that you represent in all of us. Thanks you for bringing Woeser, whose hearts touched mine and millions to come….
Tibetans will live strong and prosper because our ‘Hearts are Together”

]]> By: Jamyang Norbu http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/05/02/the-lonliness-of-the-long-distance-blogger/#comment-426 Jamyang Norbu Tue, 06 May 2008 15:16:25 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=18#comment-426 I have to make a correction here. Woeser is definitely not half-Chinese, many people think she is. Both her parents are from Bathang. Her great great grandfather was a Chinese settled in Bathang. Sorry Woeser la. Gongdak Thuten! Like Rich I'm ambivalent about Wang. His reasoning on the Tibet issue appears to be that Tibet must remain a part of China and to ensure that it does so Beijing must treat the Dalai Lama with more respect and give the Tibetans some leeway as regards freedom of religion. Wang's idea's on democracy are as uninformed, rudimentary and condescending to Tibetans as those of nearly every Chinese from the PRC that I have met. Read his "Successive Level Electoral System" and other thoughts on the issue in UNLOCKING TIBET. Jamyang I have to make a correction here. Woeser is definitely not half-Chinese, many people think she is. Both her parents are from Bathang. Her great great grandfather was a Chinese settled in Bathang. Sorry Woeser la. Gongdak Thuten!

Like Rich I’m ambivalent about Wang. His reasoning on the Tibet issue appears to be that Tibet must remain a part of China and to ensure that it does so Beijing must treat the Dalai Lama with more respect and give the Tibetans some leeway as regards freedom of religion.

Wang’s idea’s on democracy are as uninformed, rudimentary and condescending to Tibetans as those of nearly every Chinese from the PRC that I have met. Read his “Successive Level Electoral System” and other thoughts on the issue in UNLOCKING TIBET.

Jamyang

]]> By: Rich http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/05/02/the-lonliness-of-the-long-distance-blogger/#comment-423 Rich Tue, 06 May 2008 10:32:00 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=18#comment-423 Woser's relative safety reportedly comes from her father being something of a Chinese hero in the Cultural Revolution, and Chinese unwillingness to harm the families of their heroes. I'm told that much of her inside information and photographs she published in her book came from him. Perhaps someone can find sources backing this up; all I know about her is general lore told among Tibetan friends. Of course being based in Beijing also makes a big difference for her safety. As Dakney said, Wang Lixiong is also an interesting character in his own right. I met him once in Taiwan and while he definitely had a self-image of being someone sympathetic to and supportive of Tibet, his interest in China's future was definitely much more important to him. He was recommending the democratization of China as the preferred path for helping Tibet. Seeing this as "sacrificing Tibet for China", I confronted him on the matter of his motivation, and much to his credit, he admitted that it might very well be a selfish motivation, and that whether it was really the best option from a purely Tibetan perspective was very questionable. Overall, I'm hard-pressed to say what I think of Wang Lixiong. He definitely has a very Chinese way of thinking about Tibet. I haven't read his book (to which this is a reply), but Tsering Shakya's article on it is particularly telling: http://www.friendsoftibet.org/databank/tibethistory/tibeth3.html I believe his way of thinking has developed somewhat since, but I don't know by how much. The difference between the attitudes he and Woser project in their respective writings is so great that I often wonder what their conversations with one another must be like... Woser’s relative safety reportedly comes from her father being something of a Chinese hero in the Cultural Revolution, and Chinese unwillingness to harm the families of their heroes. I’m told that much of her inside information and photographs she published in her book came from him. Perhaps someone can find sources backing this up; all I know about her is general lore told among Tibetan friends.

Of course being based in Beijing also makes a big difference for her safety.

As Dakney said, Wang Lixiong is also an interesting character in his own right. I met him once in Taiwan and while he definitely had a self-image of being someone sympathetic to and supportive of Tibet, his interest in China’s future was definitely much more important to him. He was recommending the democratization of China as the preferred path for helping Tibet. Seeing this as “sacrificing Tibet for China”, I confronted him on the matter of his motivation, and much to his credit, he admitted that it might very well be a selfish motivation, and that whether it was really the best option from a purely Tibetan perspective was very questionable.

Overall, I’m hard-pressed to say what I think of Wang Lixiong. He definitely has a very Chinese way of thinking about Tibet. I haven’t read his book (to which this is a reply), but Tsering Shakya’s article on it is particularly telling:
http://www.friendsoftibet.org/databank/tibethistory/tibeth3.html

I believe his way of thinking has developed somewhat since, but I don’t know by how much. The difference between the attitudes he and Woser project in their respective writings is so great that I often wonder what their conversations with one another must be like…

]]> By: Tenzin Chomphel http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/05/02/the-lonliness-of-the-long-distance-blogger/#comment-420 Tenzin Chomphel Tue, 06 May 2008 09:16:53 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=18#comment-420 I would like to bow down my head to pay the homage to courageous writer, Woeser la. Well done and good luck.. Free Tibet. I would like to bow down my head to pay the homage to courageous writer, Woeser la.

Well done and good luck..

Free Tibet.

]]> By: Tsering Choedon http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/05/02/the-lonliness-of-the-long-distance-blogger/#comment-413 Tsering Choedon Tue, 06 May 2008 03:00:04 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=18#comment-413 It is interesting to note how she can remain in relative "safety" when other Tibetan writers such as Dolma Kyab are shipped off to prison. I wonder how she manages to do that. It is interesting to note how she can remain in relative “safety” when other Tibetan writers such as Dolma Kyab are shipped off to prison.
I wonder how she manages to do that.

]]> By: Dakney http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/05/02/the-lonliness-of-the-long-distance-blogger/#comment-408 Dakney Tue, 06 May 2008 00:30:19 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=18#comment-408 Jamyang la, thank you for writing about Woesar la who is source of inspiration for all the Tibetan esp those young generation who are grown under red chinese flag.....It would be really good if you introduce her husband Wanglee Shung. Jamyang la thank you so much for what ever you have done for our Tibet cost and you are one source of inspiration for our young Tibetan generation. Tashi Delek. Jamyang la, thank you for writing about Woesar la who is source of inspiration for all the Tibetan esp those young generation who are grown under red chinese flag…..It would be really good if you introduce her husband Wanglee Shung.
Jamyang la thank you so much for what ever you have done for our Tibet cost and you are one source of inspiration for our young Tibetan generation.
Tashi Delek.

]]> By: kunga tsetan http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/05/02/the-lonliness-of-the-long-distance-blogger/#comment-344 kunga tsetan Sat, 03 May 2008 15:12:56 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=18#comment-344 Tashi Delek, I believe Jamyang la had introduced us the world greatest weapon to fight against China's regime. Yes I am talking about woeser who is as strong as she appears and as dangerous as nuclear weapon. Jamyang la thank you for bringing one of our fearless writers in front us. Tashi Delek,

I believe Jamyang la had introduced us the world greatest weapon to fight against China’s regime. Yes I am talking about woeser who is as strong as she appears and as dangerous as nuclear weapon.
Jamyang la thank you for bringing one of our fearless writers in front us.

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