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		<title>By: Tsering Ringzin</title>
		<link>http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/08/24/a-celebration-of-lies/#comment-2129</link>
		<dc:creator>Tsering Ringzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Golok Ambum la

I wonder if like myself and other contributors you are puzzled by the postings made by Sharma Patel. As noted previously the English used by this person has a curious nature. Having been born and schooled in India I have never heard any Indian use English in such a convoluted and mangled fashion. 

Can it be that Sharma is putting this on for some strange reason? I trust he understands that this is an important and serious forum on major issues for all Tibetans. If he is unable to contribute sensible comments, then one would ask him to please respect the discussions here and find another place to display his humour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Golok Ambum la</p>
<p>I wonder if like myself and other contributors you are puzzled by the postings made by Sharma Patel. As noted previously the English used by this person has a curious nature. Having been born and schooled in India I have never heard any Indian use English in such a convoluted and mangled fashion. </p>
<p>Can it be that Sharma is putting this on for some strange reason? I trust he understands that this is an important and serious forum on major issues for all Tibetans. If he is unable to contribute sensible comments, then one would ask him to please respect the discussions here and find another place to display his humour.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/08/24/a-celebration-of-lies/#comment-2119</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 03:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading it again, I think the 'dirty' "F word" Murphy is referring to in his drunken and barely intelligible post is "freedom". And with that, I don't think he even deserves a reply. Since freedom is such a dirty concept to him, what he deserves is to be locked up himself and subjected to the lack of it, to see if that makes him happier. But thankfully for him, civilized people have higher standards. Our friends in Tibet are not so fortunate of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading it again, I think the &#8216;dirty&#8217; &#8220;F word&#8221; Murphy is referring to in his drunken and barely intelligible post is &#8220;freedom&#8221;. And with that, I don&#8217;t think he even deserves a reply. Since freedom is such a dirty concept to him, what he deserves is to be locked up himself and subjected to the lack of it, to see if that makes him happier. But thankfully for him, civilized people have higher standards. Our friends in Tibet are not so fortunate of course.</p>
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		<title>By: sharma patel</title>
		<link>http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/08/24/a-celebration-of-lies/#comment-2117</link>
		<dc:creator>sharma patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 03:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murphy,

Please be going a wee bit easier on the ale as the commenting reading like drunkenness stupor of stupidity.  Ignorance can not be much accused of brethrens here excepting a few of the Chinese imposters.  "F" word nonsense as no commenting to be found but in interest of lending credence to the argumentation you solicit, Patel will say: "F" China!

Most very sincerely,

Sharma Patel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murphy,</p>
<p>Please be going a wee bit easier on the ale as the commenting reading like drunkenness stupor of stupidity.  Ignorance can not be much accused of brethrens here excepting a few of the Chinese imposters.  &#8220;F&#8221; word nonsense as no commenting to be found but in interest of lending credence to the argumentation you solicit, Patel will say: &#8220;F&#8221; China!</p>
<p>Most very sincerely,</p>
<p>Sharma Patel</p>
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		<title>By: Tsering Choedon Lejotsang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tsering Choedon Lejotsang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murphy,

Many of us on this blog are Tibetan and speak Tibetan.
And we appreciate the intelligent, thought provoking articles and arguments put forth by the bloggers regarless of whether they are Tibetan or not, or whether they speak Tibetan or not.

But we do not have the time to read unsubstantiated angry outpour like the one that you just made.
If there is something that you wish to put across to us here, could you be more specific and provide some granularity to your arguments?

I for one would like to know the reason behind so much anger and rudeness expressed in your comment above.

Lejotsang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murphy,</p>
<p>Many of us on this blog are Tibetan and speak Tibetan.<br />
And we appreciate the intelligent, thought provoking articles and arguments put forth by the bloggers regarless of whether they are Tibetan or not, or whether they speak Tibetan or not.</p>
<p>But we do not have the time to read unsubstantiated angry outpour like the one that you just made.<br />
If there is something that you wish to put across to us here, could you be more specific and provide some granularity to your arguments?</p>
<p>I for one would like to know the reason behind so much anger and rudeness expressed in your comment above.</p>
<p>Lejotsang</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murphy, what "F word" are you talking about? I'm just trying to make sense of your comment which seems to be completely out of context..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murphy, what &#8220;F word&#8221; are you talking about? I&#8217;m just trying to make sense of your comment which seems to be completely out of context..</p>
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		<title>By: Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tashi Dele,

What ignorance! Anyway, fun reading, especially the die-hard "F"-word supporters!!! By the way, any of you "F"s even Tibetan? Any of you ever been to Tibet? Speak Tibetan? Really, people, pack it in and peddle another cause some place, the Tibetans really DO NOT need you...

Om mani padme hum</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tashi Dele,</p>
<p>What ignorance! Anyway, fun reading, especially the die-hard &#8220;F&#8221;-word supporters!!! By the way, any of you &#8220;F&#8221;s even Tibetan? Any of you ever been to Tibet? Speak Tibetan? Really, people, pack it in and peddle another cause some place, the Tibetans really DO NOT need you&#8230;</p>
<p>Om mani padme hum</p>
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		<title>By: sharma patel</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharma patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh,

This words are the well spoken eloquency of impassioned good man.  I am feeling you are brother to good struggle of Tibet.  Comrades in Delhi inform me freedom struggles not need resorting to baseness of cruelty in torture and rape but do feel needfulness of armed struggle.  I pray to holy God that immediate loss of life will being long run greater stabilities.  Problem being when whole world lie and say Tibet part of China how to do the armed insurgent so needful?  You seem wise.  Do answer if have idea.

Yours brother,

Sharma Patel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh,</p>
<p>This words are the well spoken eloquency of impassioned good man.  I am feeling you are brother to good struggle of Tibet.  Comrades in Delhi inform me freedom struggles not need resorting to baseness of cruelty in torture and rape but do feel needfulness of armed struggle.  I pray to holy God that immediate loss of life will being long run greater stabilities.  Problem being when whole world lie and say Tibet part of China how to do the armed insurgent so needful?  You seem wise.  Do answer if have idea.</p>
<p>Yours brother,</p>
<p>Sharma Patel</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharma Patel,

Love is good, tactically. To be sure. But love of one's self and life, and those loved-ones, and their freedom and dignity is the core. We need to take care to not allow common love for fellow humanity turn into some sort of moral equivalency between aggressors and victims in a systematic conquest by such aggressors.

Of course my choice of the image of a Tibetan throwing a stone at a Chinese soldier is deliberate. And I did explain that I feel that the Tibetan should be better armed. But we shouldn't knock the power that even such an act as throwing a stone at a soldier implies. It means someone has had enough. They have gotten desperate and are willing to spark something off. Today, the stone throwers are rounded up and beaten, if not killed yet. But how many who witnessed such a thing are now thinking about the future and the many more possibilities to act in defiance of fear?

Tibetans will decide which tactics will be tried. And they will learn on the ground, as all people in a struggle learn, how to apply these and change them to suit themselves. 

Love the Chinese soldier if you must. But don't get fooled by that love when such a soldier can cause you more harm and grief. The greatest weapon of the tyrants is their tolerance of pacifists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharma Patel,</p>
<p>Love is good, tactically. To be sure. But love of one&#8217;s self and life, and those loved-ones, and their freedom and dignity is the core. We need to take care to not allow common love for fellow humanity turn into some sort of moral equivalency between aggressors and victims in a systematic conquest by such aggressors.</p>
<p>Of course my choice of the image of a Tibetan throwing a stone at a Chinese soldier is deliberate. And I did explain that I feel that the Tibetan should be better armed. But we shouldn&#8217;t knock the power that even such an act as throwing a stone at a soldier implies. It means someone has had enough. They have gotten desperate and are willing to spark something off. Today, the stone throwers are rounded up and beaten, if not killed yet. But how many who witnessed such a thing are now thinking about the future and the many more possibilities to act in defiance of fear?</p>
<p>Tibetans will decide which tactics will be tried. And they will learn on the ground, as all people in a struggle learn, how to apply these and change them to suit themselves. </p>
<p>Love the Chinese soldier if you must. But don&#8217;t get fooled by that love when such a soldier can cause you more harm and grief. The greatest weapon of the tyrants is their tolerance of pacifists.</p>
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		<title>By: sharma patel</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharma patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on stone throwing:

True freedom fighter throws stone at soldier out of love and not hate.  So Hugh you are wrong to say you only care enough to tell him to go home.  I tell him go home because I love him, love Chinese, love Tibetan people, love God and country...so out of love his head get cracked with deep sad heart. He don't belong in Tibet and his China people needs him at home.  Head cracked from too much love...love for the Tibetan women this soldier would rape...love for lamas he would torture...love for him so lost in confusion.  But still need tactical better than stone throws.  Maybe Che Guevarra said true revolutionary guided by love?  Ha ha.  Funny to quote that man is it not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on stone throwing:</p>
<p>True freedom fighter throws stone at soldier out of love and not hate.  So Hugh you are wrong to say you only care enough to tell him to go home.  I tell him go home because I love him, love Chinese, love Tibetan people, love God and country&#8230;so out of love his head get cracked with deep sad heart. He don&#8217;t belong in Tibet and his China people needs him at home.  Head cracked from too much love&#8230;love for the Tibetan women this soldier would rape&#8230;love for lamas he would torture&#8230;love for him so lost in confusion.  But still need tactical better than stone throws.  Maybe Che Guevarra said true revolutionary guided by love?  Ha ha.  Funny to quote that man is it not?</p>
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		<title>By: sharma patel</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharma patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh,

Throwing stones very noble hearted and generating in me the big sympathizing.  But is not effective method of freedom fighting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh,</p>
<p>Throwing stones very noble hearted and generating in me the big sympathizing.  But is not effective method of freedom fighting.</p>
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