Comments on: TOASTING THE OLYMPICS WITH TOXIC MILK http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/09/25/toasting-the-olympics-with-toxic-milk/ Jamyang Norbu's blog Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:42:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: lodoe http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/09/25/toasting-the-olympics-with-toxic-milk/#comment-2184 lodoe Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:59:36 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=326#comment-2184 Hello Jamyang Norbu la, I am one of your admirer. I like reading your book Shadow Tibet. You are the one of the most popular and active personel who works for FREE TIBET. We appreciate you. Althought i follow the Middle path. I hope you and your scholar tibetan friends will attend the Nov meeting and give some idea and suggestion and hope will debate a lot, that we could learn from it latter. Thanks Hello Jamyang Norbu la,

I am one of your admirer. I like reading your book Shadow Tibet. You are the one of the most popular and active personel who works for FREE TIBET. We appreciate you. Althought i follow the Middle path. I hope you and your scholar tibetan friends will attend the Nov meeting and give some idea and suggestion and hope will debate a lot, that we could learn from it latter. Thanks

]]> By: tsenpo http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/09/25/toasting-the-olympics-with-toxic-milk/#comment-2175 tsenpo Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:54:00 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=326#comment-2175 Hey JN and others, the website to track Running Dog Propagandists are online now. Any articles are feel free to share with us and you can login and post. Check out http://www.envoy-of-tibet.com Any suggestions and advices are highly valued... Bogya Lo Thanks very much! Tsenpo Hey JN and others, the website to track Running Dog Propagandists are online now. Any articles are feel free to share with us and you can login and post.

Check out http://www.envoy-of-tibet.com

Any suggestions and advices are highly valued…

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Thanks very much!

Tsenpo

]]> By: We the people of Tibet http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/09/25/toasting-the-olympics-with-toxic-milk/#comment-2174 We the people of Tibet Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:19:50 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=326#comment-2174 Well, finally Dharamsala realized that past 21 years of fruitless and waist time pursuing middle path must come to end. What a waist of time and effort. We have been telling them it in the last 21 years it was wrong policy and only now we see any change. The past 21 year was pain and destruction for the Tibetan nation and its moral, especailly for its people inside Tibet and young people everywhere. Only thing we have left is demand and work for full independence and that is the only option we have..... We must bring the Chinese government on its knees and make trouble for then, Only then the Chinese regime will ask us to have a meaningful negociate...... GET IT? Well, finally Dharamsala realized that past 21 years of fruitless and waist time pursuing middle path must come to end. What a waist of time and effort. We have been telling them it in the last 21 years it was wrong policy and only now we see any change.

The past 21 year was pain and destruction for the Tibetan nation and its moral, especailly for its people inside Tibet and young people everywhere.

Only thing we have left is demand and work for full independence and that is the only option we have…..

We must bring the Chinese government on its knees and make trouble for then, Only then the Chinese regime will ask us to have a meaningful negociate…… GET IT?

]]> By: Billk http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/09/25/toasting-the-olympics-with-toxic-milk/#comment-2172 Billk Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:24:24 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=326#comment-2172 I would suggest to utube that democracy most fundamentally means people getting to vote on who their leaders are. It means a lot more as well, including freedom to dissent. Democracy needs a culture where the citizenry will say: "We will support our leaders so long as they do the right thing. When our leaders do wrong, we will refuse to follow them." The TGIE is a real democracy, where people get to vote on who leads them. China is a totalitarian dictatorship where autocrats appoint the cronies to positions of power and there are precious few handbrakes on abuse of power. What people like utube (assuming he/she is Chinese) can do right now to start building democracy in China is to grow out of their blind obedience to the autocrats who rule them. Utube, did your teachers give you the CCP line about Tibet? Did you just accept it all as the truth? Have YOU done anything to find out the other side of the story? Can you even imagine the possibility of anything you have been taught being wrong? I have a fair idea what the answers to all of those questions would be. I would suggest to utube that democracy most fundamentally means people getting to vote on who their leaders are. It means a lot more as well, including freedom to dissent. Democracy needs a culture where the citizenry will say: “We will support our leaders so long as they do the right thing. When our leaders do wrong, we will refuse to follow them.”

The TGIE is a real democracy, where people get to vote on who leads them. China is a totalitarian dictatorship where autocrats appoint the cronies to positions of power and there are precious few handbrakes on abuse of power.

What people like utube (assuming he/she is Chinese) can do right now to start building democracy in China is to grow out of their blind obedience to the autocrats who rule them.

Utube, did your teachers give you the CCP line about Tibet? Did you just accept it all as the truth? Have YOU done anything to find out the other side of the story? Can you even imagine the possibility of anything you have been taught being wrong?

I have a fair idea what the answers to all of those questions would be.

]]> By: Rich http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/09/25/toasting-the-olympics-with-toxic-milk/#comment-2171 Rich Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:13:34 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=326#comment-2171 To the people who have descended into inflammatory personal attacks with no apparent reason, please either state your argument or get lost. I'd be happy to discuss any real issue but I will not discuss such things as "you are naive" or "you are stupid", etc. To the people who have descended into inflammatory personal attacks with no apparent reason, please either state your argument or get lost. I’d be happy to discuss any real issue but I will not discuss such things as “you are naive” or “you are stupid”, etc.

]]> By: UTUBE http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/09/25/toasting-the-olympics-with-toxic-milk/#comment-2169 UTUBE Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:14:59 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=326#comment-2169 TO rich "The US has been “democratic” since the beginning and look what good it’s done the Native Americans…" You are so naive and innocent. Go read more books from "the other side" or go to join the Army. Stop talking the talk. reach nowhere. TO rich
“The US has been “democratic” since the beginning and look what good it’s done the Native Americans…”

You are so naive and innocent. Go read more books from “the other side” or go to join the Army.
Stop talking the talk. reach nowhere.

]]> By: UTUBE http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/09/25/toasting-the-olympics-with-toxic-milk/#comment-2168 UTUBE Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:11:05 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=326#comment-2168 You want to see the most ridiculous thing? LOok at the Tibet constitute and it is called "democratic one" Joke. It is all about Dalai Lama and Gods rule, Kings rule. Even the National Anthem is packed with God and Dalai Lama. I think Tibetan are still living in Medieval Tibet. DEMOCRACY means people rule, not ruled by God and Dalai Lama You want to see the most ridiculous thing? LOok at the Tibet constitute and it is called “democratic one” Joke. It is all about Dalai Lama and Gods rule, Kings rule. Even the National Anthem is packed with God and Dalai Lama. I think Tibetan are still living in Medieval Tibet. DEMOCRACY means people rule, not ruled by God and Dalai Lama

]]> By: Tendar Tsering http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/09/25/toasting-the-olympics-with-toxic-milk/#comment-2166 Tendar Tsering Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:16:48 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=326#comment-2166 Jamyang lak, please don't miss the up coming Tibetan general meeting in Dharamshala...................... Jamyang lak, please don’t miss the up coming Tibetan general meeting in Dharamshala………………….

]]> By: Crazy Wolf http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/09/25/toasting-the-olympics-with-toxic-milk/#comment-2165 Crazy Wolf Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:58:37 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=326#comment-2165 Well Rich, wanted to see how much stupiditly you are wise to say about the issue, can't wait to read the article. Well Rich, wanted to see how much stupiditly you are wise to say about the issue, can’t wait to read the article.

]]> By: Rich http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/2008/09/25/toasting-the-olympics-with-toxic-milk/#comment-2164 Rich Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:51:27 +0000 http://www.jamyangnorbu.com/blog/?p=326#comment-2164 I think it's a mistake to expect the downfall of communism in China to bring any benefit to Tibet - actually I'm working on an article on that topic right now. Prior to the rise of communism in China, China had already been trying to conquer and assimilate Tibet for centuries, and had already taken significant portions of Kham and most of Amdo when Mao came to power. Regardless of the form of government, China is China. Nonetheless, I do think there's a great deal of hope in any kind of destabilization or collapse of the CCP, simply because it would occupy the Chinese with concerns about their own internal power struggle and keep their focus off Tibet, providing a key opportunity. But the outlook of a "peaceful transition to democracy" in China is much more grim. The US has been "democratic" since the beginning and look what good it's done the Native Americans... I think it’s a mistake to expect the downfall of communism in China to bring any benefit to Tibet - actually I’m working on an article on that topic right now. Prior to the rise of communism in China, China had already been trying to conquer and assimilate Tibet for centuries, and had already taken significant portions of Kham and most of Amdo when Mao came to power. Regardless of the form of government, China is China.

Nonetheless, I do think there’s a great deal of hope in any kind of destabilization or collapse of the CCP, simply because it would occupy the Chinese with concerns about their own internal power struggle and keep their focus off Tibet, providing a key opportunity. But the outlook of a “peaceful transition to democracy” in China is much more grim. The US has been “democratic” since the beginning and look what good it’s done the Native Americans…

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