In my last post I mentioned an instance of how Communist China was flexing its economic muscle to disseminate its propaganda in the USA, essentially through paying for pages of the China Daily to be inserted within the august recesses of America’s newspaper of record, the New York Times. One reader emailed me that the same thing was happening at the Washington Post. I tossed my special edition DVD of All The President’s Men into the wastepaper basket.
And China’s propaganda push now extends even to Hollywood. The Los Angeles Times spelled it out in a couple of articles: “Is China Exerting an Undue Influence on Hollywood Films?” and “Hollywood Gripped by Pressure System From China”. The two pieces discuss a number of recent films: Salmon Fishing in the Yemen, Battleship, Iron Man 3, Red Dawn, Men in Black 3, and the disaster film 2012, where Chinese pre-censorship in Hollywood has used its economic clout to ensure that “…a generation of Western film-goers will basically get only a positive, sanitized view of the Chinese in their films.”
On these many alterations that Hollywood producers and studio executives have submitted to, University of Southern California professor Stanley Rosen, who runs the school’s East Asian Studies center, told LA Times : “I don’t think the average U.S. film-goer is hugely aware of all of these small decisions, but subliminally, it can start to have an effect.” It was Rosen’s reference to the “subliminal” that made this “soft power” outreach by Beijing, as the pro-China media in the West like to describe such things, take on a Cold War ambience along the more unsettling lines of thought-control, brain-washing, or putting it more precisely “economic brain washing” (经济洗腦 jīngjì xǐ năo), if we are not to lose sight of the essential “conditioning stimuli” as Pavlov once termed it.
This is a painful reversal for Tibetans since those heady days of Seven Years in Tibet, Kundun and Hollywood’s big (and brief) romance with the Dalai Lama and Tibet. Because of its dramatic landscapes and unique mythic qualities, Tibet does still make the occasional cut in some films, but as Batman Begins and 2012 have demonstrated this can now be effectively done by making sure the name “Tibet” never comes up, by not allowing a hint of the fact that the area in question was till recently not a part of China, and by ensuring that only Chinese actors portray Tibetans.
Now besides Hollywood, the New York Times and the Washington Post, another media institution in the US, smaller and less well-known, but enormously important to the Tibetan people and their struggle for freedom, appears to have been targeted by Beijing for an ideological makeover.
The Tibetan Language Section of Radio Free Asia (RFA) has been the most effective source of news and information for people throughout occupied Tibet, not only about the world at large, but more so about the crucial happenings and events within their own country, of which they are largely kept ignorant by the state security apparatus and propaganda organs. To the Tibetan common man such RFA reports of mass demonstrations in Lhasa, Kirti, Rebkong and Tsolho, arrests of important lamas or dissidents, violent public clashes with Chinese mining companies in Kham, the long series of self-immolations (now eighty to date) presented in a balanced, objective and professional manner stand in sharp contrast to the shrill denunciations and disinformation of Radio Lhasa, Xizang Lhasa TV, Ganze and Qinghai People’s Radio (and TV) etc., read by newscasters in exaggerated Chinese accented Tibetan, which the public (especially in rural areas) have difficulty understanding but which as a policy has been calculatedly enforced, possibly for the ultimate purpose of sinicizing the Tibetan language itself.
RFA reports on the talks, teachings and travels of the the Dalai Lama are enormously appreciated in Tibet, as are all the the goings on (both positive and negative) within the exile administration and the diaspora in general, especially news of Tibetan led protests and activism in New York, London, and Delhi, which a caller from Lhasa (on a RFA call-in program) said gave common people like him in Tibet hope and made them feel less isolated in their despair and subjugation.
The Chinese have expended enormous effort and resources to jam RFA broadcast into Tibet. Because of the size and topography of the Tibetan plateau, China’s jamming effort are not uniformly effective, so the occupation authorities in Tibet have made listening to RFA Tibetan service a criminal offense, in the same way as listening to the BBC was in Nazi occupied Europe. Since Chinese mobile monitoring systems and also human informers operate extensively in populated ares, I have been told of nomads and shepherds sneaking transistor radios in their packs when taking their flocks to the mountain pastures. Not only would the reception be clearer in the higher altitudes, but there would be no policemen or informers checking on them. When the shepherds returned to their village they would pass on what they had heard to their family members and others in the village they could trust.
RFA came to being following the Tienanmen massacre when public support in the US grew for services that could provide information to people living under repressive regimes in Asia. In 1994 Congress passed the International Broadcasting Act and created RFA (in 1996) as a private, not profit corporation. It is funded by an annual federal grant from the government, but the far-reaching and momentous aspect of the program was that RFA was not required to broadcast information provided by the American government. Only 20% of RFA broadcast content is required to be American. 80% is developed independently by each language service, which are run by people from that very linguistic group, having broad editorial independence.
One explanation I received about RFA’s mandate from a senior American official, was that it was created to provide “surrogate” radio services for the people who did not have their own free national radio services. And that the mandate for the head of the services, broadcasters and journalists, was essentially to provide those nations and communities with their own independent and up-to-date radio services, paid for by the people of America.
This was an enormous windfall for the Tibetan cause. But the initial elation was quickly deflated when it was learned that the head of the Tibetan language service was to be Jigme Ngabo, the son of Ngabo Ngawang Jigme, the only minister in the entire Tibetan cabinet, the kashag in 1959, who had collaborated with the Chinese Communist occupation authority.
I must admit that I shared everyone’s concerns, but over time Jigme Ngabo fils proved to be the ideal man for this critical position. Because of his education (and work) in Tibet and China and his later studies at the University of Virginia he was not only fluent in all three languages but had access to many institutions and individuals in these areas and was able to get RFA access to much information and news sources that other services could not. He managed to induce such well-known Tibetans writers and intellectuals in Tibet and China as the award-winning poet and blogger Tsering Woeser to be a regular contributor to RFA programs. The Dalai Lama wholeheartedly supported his appointment. Since he was also completely apolitical in the context of exile politics, and as he was genuinely inoffensive and soft-spoken, he initially managed to survive the treacherous currents of Tibetan politics.
The overriding virtue that Jigme brought to the job – probably since he came from a world completely devoid of it, was, and I am extrapolating here, the idea of objective truth transcending whatever the powers that be (even those on your own side) had to say about it. Jigme made sure that his task was not merely to combat China’s propaganda machine but to present, through the service, as wide a spectrum of opinions and views that existed in the Tibetan world, which most other Tibet related media outlets did not do.
I had for a long time been persona non grata in the official Tibetan world (including foreign organizations and personalities connected with it) essentially for my political writings in the Tibetan Review and Phayul.com, and also for some plays I had written and produced at the Tibetan Institute of Performing Arts. I had also been one of the editors of the largest independent Tibetan language newspaper, Mangtso (Democracy) that had been enormously successful, in quite an unprecedented way with the Tibetan exile public, but which had displeased some Tibetan leaders and politicians in Dharamshala. In 2001 the paper was finally pressured to close when his Holiness publicly expressed his displeasure with its reporting. So it came as quite a surprise to me when a couple of years later, if I remember correctly, I was asked to be a consultant for RFA.
I contributed to a variety of programs but mostly spoke on their Sunday Political Talk Show, hosted by veteran journalist Karma Zurkhang, a former member of the exile parliament and an old Dharamshala hand. There was no attempt by Jigme or any of his staff to censor me or induce me to tone down or change anything I said. Which was another surprise. Of course I did not have carte blanche in these discussions as Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) officials, retired and serving, and other experts came on the panel and often challenged my views. Tibetan listeners also phoned in from Nepal, India, and the West with their comments and criticisms. People also phoned in from Tibet and China proper especially around 2008, and were outspokenly supportive of the protests and demonstrations by exile activists. These were real debates on policy that probably did not happen in any other forum in the Tibetan world.
I was grateful for this gig. There wasn’t much money in it, but it gave me an opportunity to be heard inside Tibet and to let people there know that someone in exile was consistently articulating and propagating the cause of Tibetan independence, which the CTA had long abandoned. I should mention that my participation in the programs were entirely by phone. I only briefly visited the RFA office in Washington DC years later, when I was presented a souvenir mug by Jigme Ngabo.
Then invariably, complaints began circulating from Dharamshala about the political correctness of those speaking on RFA programs. About eight years ago two important CTA officials paid a formal visit to the RFA office and gave a talk to Jigme and the Tibetan staff. The two VIP’s deplored RFA’s policy of allowing people on its programs who were opposed to the Dalai Lama and the exile administration and whose criticisms were demoralizing Tibetans inside Tibet.
RFA’s editorial independence continued to annoy the exile government, and during his entire tenure prime-minister Samdong Rinpoche refused to grant RFA any interviews or meetings, and instructed cabinet ministers and secretaries to do the same. He also conducted a low-profile but relentless crusade against RFA for allowing those “opposed” to the Tibetan government opportunities to express their views on its program.
Then last year the President of RFA, Libby Liu and her right-hand man, Tibetan staff member, Kalden Lodoe made a number of official trips to Dharamshala and elsewhere to meet with exile officials and the prime-minister Lobsang Sangye. One informant told me that in these discussions direct references were made to TYC leaders and rangzen activists like myself who disagreed with the Dalai Lama’s Middle Way policy.
Kalden Lodoe appears to be Dharamshala’s point man at RFA and is someone who has consistently and aggressively opposed all independence activists. He was rewarded by Samdong Rinpoche who, making an exception to his “boycott RFA” rule, appeared as a guest on his show. We can probably assume that Kalden treated his VIP guest with due deference and respect. RFA listeners have told me though that Kalden can be very confrontational with his guests particularly if they happen to be TYC or SFT leaders, in which case he bullies them, Sean Hannity fashion, for organizing demonstrations and protests against the PRC, which he claims are against the wishes of the Dalai Lama.
In July 2011 at the Kalachakra Initiation given by the Dalai Lama at Washington DC, Kalden Lodoe, the chief organizer, had security personnel remove TYC president Tsewang Rigzin from the premises. I personally had a run in with this somewhat aggressive ex-monk in the Fall of 2001 when I made a presentation to the Tibetan Community in Washington DC on why we should not give up our struggle for independence. During the Q & A Kalden Lodoe insisted that there was inherently no difference between the Dalai Lama’s Middle Way and the goal of Tibetan independence and that I was creating dissension in exile society and showing disloyalty to His Holiness with my lectures and writing.
Then in December last year, Lodi Gyari, the Dalai Lama’s special envoy and Executive Chairman of the International Campaign for Tibet (ICT) insisted on an exclusive speaking opportunity at the Sunday Political Talk Show. Asserting the prestige of his position as the Dalai Lama’s envoy, he brushed aside the host, Karma Zurkhang’s attempts to moderate the talk, and went on a one hour tirade against “those Tibetans opposed to the Dalai Lama and the exile administration. He did not name me by name but listeners told me that I was definitely one of those he was inveighing against.
Gyari’s harangue was fairly generic, as such things go in exile Tibetan politics, but a couple of weeks earlier I had appeared on this same Sunday Talk Show where I remarked on a dishonest statement he had made, which might have contributed to its timing.
CTA “Sikyong” Lobsang Sangay met Libby Liu a number of times and it appears that he was successful in “charming her” and convincing her that RFA Tibetan section under Jigme Ngabo was opposed to the Dalai Lama’s Middle Way policy and that listeners inside Tibet were being disheartened by such RFA programs. It also appears that in June of this year Lobsang Sangay, Libby Liu and Lobsang Nyandak, the representative of the Dalai Lama in New York, met in London and had discussions about the need to restructure RFA’s Tibetan service and to replace Jigme Ngabo.
I probably spoke on one more program and then got the news that the Sunday Talk Show hosted by Karma Zurkhang had been cancelled altogether. This had been effectively done in April this year, without the knowledge of Jigme Ngabo, who was on official leave to visit his ailing mother. My other program of discussing world literary figures and political thinkers was also cancelled. I did not receive any notification, official or otherwise, of this termination.
Then on the morning of 5th November, RFA president Libby Liu, precipitously fired Jigme Ngabo in humiliating circumstances. He was escorted out of his office by Security personnel. Liu then summoned staff members of the Tibetan Service for a meeting and after giving them all a stern dressing down, announced that Jigme Ngabo was dismissed. One of the staff members asked the reason for the dismissal but was told that it was “personal” and not any of their business. This came as a big shock to the Tibetans at RFA who liked and trusted Jigme Ngabo, and appreciated his respect for their professional integrity and independence. Of the forty-one staff members, two were on leave, but everyone else immediately signed a letter of support for Jigme urging that he be reinstated as director. The only staff member who did not sign was Kalden Lodoe.
A few days after Jigme Ngabo’s dismissal the representative of the Dalai Lama in New York, Lobsang Nyandak visited Washington DC in order, it seems, to thwart any effort by RFA staff to organize support for Jigme’s reinstatement. Nyandak summoned all Tibetan RFA personnel for a meeting at the ICT office premises. Only a few attended. He told them that the exile administration was not behind the dismissal but that it did not take an unfavorable view of what had happened. He pointed out that Jigme Ngabo had made many mistakes and had allowed people opposed to the exile administration to express misleading opinions.
One of the first to respond to this scandal was the poet Tsering Woeser who posted a blog which condemned Ngabo Jigme’s dismissal and pointed out how the whole incident had reminded her of her own dismissal from a media organization under Chinese Communist Party control. But she noted that the “Han Chinese official” who dismissed her at least told her “quite gently” the reasons why she was being dismissed, unlike what had happened to Jigme Ngabo. Woeser concluded that “… comparatively speaking the Chinese Communist Party officials were more frank and honest” than their American counter parts at RFA.
This was followed by a press release and two letters to CTA from US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, who stated: “I have reason to believe that he (Jigme Ngabo) was terminated for political reasons … 73 Tibetans have self-immolated since March 2011, Rep. Rohrabacher said, “It could not be clearer; the people of Tibet are dying for freedom and independence. RFA needs to continue to be the source for accurate information. Any suggestion of political censorship within RFA must be fully investigated.”
Perhaps on one level Jigme Ngabo’s dismissal may probably be nothing more than another deplorable, if all too frequent example of Dharamshala’s compulsive tendency to control media outlets and support groups in the exile world, and marginalize those who do not fall in line with it policies. In the last year or two this trend has markedly increased as noted in the editorial of the Tibetan Political Review “Are the Speaker and Kalon Tripa stifling free speech?” and articles in other publications, a noteworthy one being “Censorship and the struggle for Tibetan freedom” by Tenzin Nyinjey.
But when we examine exactly what kind of speech or opinion Dharamshala has been attempting to stifle, one overall pattern keeps appearing. CTA’s efforts have essentially targeted those individuals and organizations like the TYC who spoke up for Tibetan independence and who were active in challenging Beijing on this issue. This year Dharamshala went into overdrive with Sikyong Lobsang Sangay and speaker Pempa Tsering, whipping up public anger against the TYC for “hurting” the Dalai Lama, and religious-right groups began calling for the TYC to be shut down and its leaders to be attacked and beaten.
It is an article of faith with the CTA that if somehow all independence activism and discussion were halted or contained, then Beijing would agree to the “genuine autonomy” solution proposed in the Dalai Lama’s Middle Way policy; or would, at least, resume the negotiations it terminated two year ago. This is so unshakable a belief, that I think it may not be entirely based on wishful thinking. Some time or the other Beijing must have made an actual proposition to the CTA. Of course Beijing was playing them, like a fiddle or húqín to be precise, but Dharamshala’s predilection for a kind of self-serving naiveté in such matters is well known.
And its not that something like this hasn’t happened before. There is evidence that in 2002, Beijing had actually reached out to Dharamshala with the promise of further “negotiations” to ensure that the last state visit of then president Jiang Zemin to the USA was not disrupted. Tibetan prime minister Samdhong Rinpoche sent strict instructions to all Tibetans and support groups not to stage protests. But a few did all the same. When Tibetans and supporters in Vancouver staged an anti-Chinese rally, an official from the Chinese consulate in Vancouver came over to the protesters and scolded them saying, “didn’t your leaders tell you not to demonstrate.” At subsequent demonstrations in New York City activists were accosted by an official (of Tibetan origin) from the Chinese consulate in New York who yelled at them in Tibetan: “You are not supposed to do this. Didn’t your government (shung) tell you not to protest.”
Right now there is mounting concern in senior echelons of the Chinese Communist Party at the unending series of immolations in Tibet, which are causing unprecedented demonstrations and protests in such areas as Tsolho and Rebkong. China has thus far relied completely on large-scale, almost saturation, deployment of security personnel throughout Tibet to contain the immolations but it is beginning to realize that such measures are useless against a determined individual immolator, operating outside of any organized group. There is also growing awareness in the leadership that the immolations and the rising resentment within the entire Tibetan population could lead to serious destabilization of the entire Tibetan plateau, which could spill over into neighboring areas with unforeseeable results.
So it would not be unreasonable to assume that Beijing wants Dharamshala to stop this, or at least stop the “splittist” messaging from exile, particularly from RFA broadcasts, which it firmly believes is fueling the immolations and protests within Tibet. Dharamshala in turn probably shares Beijing’s concerns as the Tibetan Political Review editorial pointed out “The self-immolation crisis in Tibet and the resignations of the Tibetan Envoys have placed extreme pressure on the TGIE leadership’s signature Middle Way policy.”
In August 16 this year, Xiao Wunan, a senior CCP cadre and United Front leader, (the same department that had conducted the negotiations with the exile administration) visited India and was received in Dharamshala by the Dalai Lama, Lobsang Sangay, then ‘Kalon Tripa’ (prime minister). An Indian researcher Jayadeva Ranade (a former senior government official) in an article “A concerned dragon: China’s fresh overture to Tibetans” wrote that Xiao Wunan probably carried a personal message from a senior Chinese leader, possibly Xi Jinping. Ranade wrote that “He could have informed the Dalai Lama that he was welcome to spend his last days in Beijing provided he gave up ‘anti-China’ activities and expressed support for the Communist regime.”
The article also notes “Coincidentally, within a month of the meeting the designation of the Head of the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) was changed from ‘Kalon Tripa’ (or prime minister) to the less controversial — from Beijing’s perspective —’Sikyong’ (or political leader).”
Ranade is speculating but his dots all somehow connect very nicely. What is not speculation is that New Delhi was not happy at CTA’s decision to meet Xiao Wunan, especially his meeting with the Karmapa. Incidently the young lama took offense at the tenor of Xiao’s questions and abruptly terminated the meeting. Before moving on from Ranade’s interesting theories, I should point out that I believe Beijing has probably reached out much earlier to Dharamshala on this issue. You don’t need to organize a dog and pony show like the Xiao Wuhan visit, in order to make whatever connections you need to get the deal done – and do it discreetly.
I have long maintained that China has for many years now manipulated Tibetan policy making within the CTA. I pointed out in an article in 1989 in the Tibetan Review how China has used certain politicians and individuals in the West as unconscious “agents of influence” to persuade the Dalai Lama to give up the struggle for Tibetan freedom and accept Tibet as a part of China. I named names, provided details, and even reissued the piece in a book of essays, but have not received any sort of denial or repudiation to date. Disdainful silence is the usual Dharamshala response to such indictments so I was intrigued at Sikyong Lobsang Sangay’s prompt letter denying any involvement in Jigme Ngabo’s dismissal.
Of course when the charges are being made by a sitting US Congressman and could affect the funding that CTA receives from the American government a prompt denial is probably wise, but I think much more needs to done to remedy the situation and restore confidence all around. With such devastating but momentous events unfolding inside Tibet, the conspiracy to emasculate RFA could not have come at a worse time. It goes without saying that Jigme Ngabo needs to be reinstated immediately and everyone in the Tibetan Language section should resume their vital duties without delay. To reassure our American friends and supporters, the exile Tibetan parliament should set up a high-powered parliamentary committee to thoroughly investigate this issue. Of course the make-up of the committee would have to entirely non-partisan, hence the speaker Pempa Tsering should be excluded for starters. Such a response would not only go over well with American lawmakers but also contribute to the development of our own democratic process. I appeal to all readers to write directly to their chithue representatives and also send emails to Tibetan newspapers, journals and websites, calling for such an investigative committee.
If the CTA and the exile parliament do nothing then Tibetans in the USA need to write to their representatives in Congress calling on them to ensure that the US Congress’s noble and successful experiment to provide the Tibetan freedom struggle a powerful and independent voice, is not hijacked and perverted to serve as a covert propaganda outpost for the Ministry of Truth in Beijing
And the plot thickens!
Great article, Jamyang la. The only problem is that the link to your 1989 article isn’t working.
THANK YOU JAMYANG for connecting the dots from Beijing, through Dharamshala,to Xinhua in the Washington Post, and New York Times and to Radio Free Asia, which under Jigme Ngabo’s superb leadership had been reporting the hard and ugly facts about the crisis in TIBET. Indeed, Jigme’s unjustified dismissal could not come at a worse time for the people in Tibet.
I have worked with Radio Free Asia since 1998, with Jigme Ngabo, and I have the utmost respect for his character, judgement, values and conduct. Has the long arm of the CCP penetrated Radio Free Asia, one of the very few Tibet services yet uncorrupted? And paid for by United States taxpayers?
Thank you for this detail piece. I’ll definitely write to both my chithus and my congressman/women for an inquiry. So that we all can get the correct information. If ngabo Jigme made a serious mistake in handling his duties, he deserves it. But, if President Liu fired Ngabo because of his political views or pressure from CTA officials, this should not be tolerated.
This is a question of fairness- no people in this world should undergo such experience. If not, then whats the point of asking world leaders to help us against all the Chinese wrongdoings. Congressman should ccd that letter to His Holiness for his information.
Too much- After all i don’t trust Sikyong and his team. All of his teams are opportunist and his friends and cousin. NOne in Dhramsala trust those leaders.
Worst, these days, Sikyong even rehired ex-CTA officials who earlier were expelled from his holiness private office of Financial embezzlement. To be precise he is currently in Bangalore. AFter all, Tibetan Cooperative society association is run by thugs like him who earlier were also part of group who signed treaty with Taiwan’s Goumintang (Infamous Chushi-Gangdruk and Bo-Sog Lehkhung). Remember? Sikyong Conviniently forgot all those past history and courted as their friends.
Other ex-official rehired includes those have temper issues and extra-marital affair with the staff members. I wonder why they are blocking those executive secretary position. Why are they back to serve when they left as part of 1000 immigration (when they had opportunity to serve)?
Sikyong’s rehiring of those official says so much to us:
1. He value Tibetan with foreign passport more.
2. He don’t value us who are in the system already. Thats why, we think it is a must to secure a foreign passport and then comeback and serve.
3. You got to thug or money Launderer to get respect- to be worthy of Sikyong and CTA friendship.
Anyways, thats different issue but serious one thats need to be tackled sooner or later.
After all, we have elected him (though not with my vote), and we deserve it for not doing the homework. The question now is whether we want to live like China whose censorship and threat Tibetan knows the best, or like India and USA where freedom of speech is protected and threats are met with the justice of the law of the land.
Long & tiring read but useful nonetheless. Thank you for this enlightening piece.
Jamyang Norbu i appreciate your idea, knowledge and social work….. we have every right to express our views and all…. but its just my opinion, including you and some are comparing His Holiness and CTA with PRC….. thats i strongly disagree. if you think both are same then why you came here as exile….. you know knowledge and everything but thats does not mean you have to oppose CTA always. i agree there is mistake with CTA but not always. if CTA officials are not up to the level then why, you are not in CTA staff? itsd because of less pay or what?
its very easy to point out the others mistake but CTA need to think every corner of Tibetan People as whole.you can oppose but not always. please do write some constructive things, we are already divided on many ground. I request you as College student from India. Madras University Students. who came from Tibet. I always admire you but not on this ground.
Thank you Jamyang la, for detail info. I don’t understand why Dharmasala never learn when China is playing games. I don’t see any change from Xi. We will have another 10 years with Xi, just like Hu and hoping something will come out after 10 years. It’s time for Tibetans to vote and choose what is best. I believe tibetan in Tibet are calling for FREEDOM.
A long read but worth reading it, every bit of it. Thank you so much.
This was helpful since I was struggling to get a handle on this story. Thank you (I’m not sure that Xiao Wunan is with United Front. My understanding is that he is the Exec VP of APECF.)
Jamyang la, thank you for this insightful article. CTA really need realistic approach when it comes to dealing with China. CTA’s knowledge about how China functions under the monolithic structure of CCP is surprisingly minimal.
ANYOG TENPA, I don’t agree many of your allegations. They don’t make much sense.
Jo Jeeeta Wohi Sikandar !!!
Well known phrase and totally relates to our Sikyong la. Bottom line he is at the top and won with a majority vote. I personally think Sikyong la and his team has worked hard and is working hard for the cause of Tibetan. I agree we should question our government but there is a difference in questioning with respect and being disrespectful for one’s ego. Its easy to point fingers on others than being on that position and doing the right thing. I think it is better to spend one’s energy for the cause of Tibet than to waste it in pointing fingers and doing a blame game for fame. In politics its always difficult to please 100%, one has to make some difficult decision that benefits the majority of Tibetan and for greater purpose.
Jamyang constantly attack his own people. In this article he successfully attacks every Tibetan leader we have. Jamyang if you cannot help why divide us?
Take care and do something productive.
Tashi Namgyal.
Jamyang constantly attacks our own people. He has successfully attacked every Tibetan leader we have right now. Our holy gurus are what give us Tibetans hope, solace, comfort and keep us united. His Holiness Gyalwa Karmapa has been making Chinese supporters for decades now.
If you cannot help Tibet please find some other way to manage your time and stop dividing our people.
If you want to join our Tibetan Government then join if not– join the American politics or government.
Stop dividing the Tibetan people.
Tashi Namgyal.
One time there were important Tibetan officials in exile who were deliberating about what they could do to really put Tibet on the map. To do something noteworthy that would make the news. They pondered and pondered and pondered and suddenly one jumped up and said, “Let’s build a spaceship and go to the moon. Then we will be in the news.” The other officals clapped and exclaimed what a great idea that was. Then one old monk in the room that was sweeping the floor and had heard the remark, said, “You dumb sh#ts, the Americans have already been to the moon.” So, the three officials sat down and thought some more and suddenly one jumped up and said, “I know, we will build a spaceship and go to the sun. Wow we will really make the news then.” The other two officials clapped and said what a great idea that was. The monk sweeping the floor heard that and remarked, “You dumb sh*ts, if you go the sun, you will burn up.” The officals then sat down and thought some more and suddenly one jumps up and said, “I know, we will go the sun at night.” All the officials clapped and shouted and thought that was a great idea. The old monk sweeping the floor looked at the officials in disgust and shaking his head said, “You dumb sh*ts. I am going back to Tibet.”
1. When you are accusing CTA and its Leaders for any involvement in the removal of former director of RFA, then you are also accusing the Independent Board which administers the Broadcasting Agency, for their action.
2. When you are accusing Dharamsala Leader of any grudge against Rangzen Activist, then you are trying to divide between the two which is very dangerous and expose your hypocrisy because CTA functions democratically, and there are Parliament members who oversees its activities, and have never indulged to demean or demoralize any NGO, but always have great concern for people like you who have done less against Chinese Communist, and more harm in creating distrust inside our community.
3. Kashag and Parliament has raised many objections, not to RFA as a whole, but towards few Staff, who tries to portray rumours in their programs which goes to Tibetans in Tibet. Did you question about their rumour’s implication to the listeners in Tibet. Why few programs of RFA has deliberately tried to address His Holiness the Dalai Lama as Mr. Dalai Lama. Even the donor agent of RFA, that is US Congress, has conferred its Congressional Gold Medal and addressed as His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
4. If you are interested in rumour, then did you hear about the rumour that former Director of RFA has appointed about 10 of his relative or close friends to the staff member of RFA?
5. 3. In one of your speech online, you said you feel proud when you heard some Communist Chinese leader has taken note of your writing, you felt that you have been doing some great work for the Tibetan cause, but in writing such blogs and many others before, I feel you are immature to think that Chinese government has been manipulating you.
6. Like CTA is the most important institution to fight against the Communist Party for regaining our freedom, but at the same time, equally importance is the largest and most effective NGO in the history of Exile community is the TYC.
7. His Holiness the Dalai Lama has always maintain natural evolution of Tibetan democracy, and if you think this as a platform to play your politics of splitting between the CTA and other NGO, then you better back off now or you might face the public bashing once they feel enough is enough. You cannot fool people with your twisted stories or rumours.
8. Your call on Tibetan public to write on behalf of RFA, and here I will call on fellow Tibetans to see the reality of whole situation, and never wait for His Holiness the Dalai Lama to issue instruction to you to do this or that, we must now act to get rid of few individual who tries to create negative atmosphere in the community, and especially against His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
9. Last not the least; if we can’t get rid of people like this, then I wonder how we can get rid of people in the Chinese Communist Party.
འཇམ་དབྱངས་ལགས། ད་ཐེངས་ཀྱི་གནས་ཚུལ་འདིར་འདི་ལྟ་བུའི་རྙོག་ཟིང་ཨ་ཡོད་ན། ང་ཕོད་འཇིགས་མེད་ཕུད་ནས་འཇོན་པ་གསར་པ་ཞིག་བསྐོས་མི་ཆོག་པ་གང་ཡོད། ང་྄ཕོད་འ྄ཇིགས་མེད་ན་མེད་ན་rfaབརླག་པ་དང་྄ཁོང་ཡོད་ན་rfaགནས་པ་ཞིག་ནི་ཡིན་ས་མ་རེད། དོན་དེར་རང་འདོད་ཀྱིས་འགྲེལ་ལོག་དང་གང་བྱུང་དུ་འཁྱོག་བཤད་བྱས་ན་བོད་དོན་གྱི་ཕུགས་ལ་གནོད་རྒྱུ་རེད། དགོངས་པ་ཡག་པོ་བཞེད་རོགས།
Jamyang-la,
Thanks for your article. As Tibetans we have a lot of growing up to do politically and socially and critics like yourself do play a major role on this trajectory. Having said that, I must say that somehow your article connects the dots only from one perspective, the perspective that was expressed in the letter by the congressman, the perspective that is nonetheless based on “reports” from “Tibetan insiders” who bear uncanny resemblance to what you are saying here in this blog, namely that it is Dharamsala’s method of curtailing RFA’s freedom of press so as to please the Chinese authorities. Actually I could buy this, given Dharamsala’s genuineness on the issue of not seeking genuine autonomy. But what does not follow logically from this that removal of Ngabo Jigme will then transform RFA so that they will eliminate any opinion or broadcasting that goes against the policies of Dharamsala and let us remind ourselves here, of the policy of elected Tibetan representatives. THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN! On the other side of this unfolding drama, there is also a speculation that the removal might have to do with international espionage, the truth of which remains necessarily hidden from us. In terms of pure speculation, we know that Ngabo jigme does not interact with Dharamsala as you yourself pointed out and is the son of that traitor which you also pointed out. On top of this, it has been sort of personal for you, since your Sunday program got cancelled and the man who gave you that program also got fired from his job.
I also don’t agree with your attempt at character assassination of public figures. For example, what do you allude to when you say that obsang Sangay was able to “successfully charm” Libby Liu, the president of RFA and bracket the phrase “successfully charm”? Thank you Jamyang-la for this one-side but otherwise enlightening piece . We are still waiting for the other side of the story, the story Libby liu has to tell, the story which we are not yet hearing.
Free Tibet: Nobody is contesting whether he won by a majority or not and nobody has yet to make a case against the work he has been doing since he became the Prime Minister. You seem to be under the impression that it is one of those normal hide under the rug kind of accusation here, the typical response from the Tibetan populace. Lets not rock the boat mentality. Even in Shichaks, when girls were raped, people will appeal to have it handled within the community instead of actually obeying the law of the land and turning the assholes to the Indian police.
You seem to have forgotten the initial accusation came from a sitting US congressman who always happen to be the Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations. Do you really want to piss this person off anymore?
It is better to take the initiative internally and hastely organize a committee to look into this and come up with a solution before the congressman decides to really amp up the pressure and drag Ms.Liu in front of the Subcommittee and make her spill the beans. If that happens, it could effect the financial aid we receive from the US government. Do you want that?
Moreover, this is a blatant misuse of power if it is true and needs to be investigated. If you are for democracy and freedom of press, you should be asking for swift inquiry into this and to get to the bottom of this. We have to protect the institution of the Tibetan govt. That is first and foremost. In order to do that, if we have to get rid of some bad apples, we should do it, regardless of your personal feelings regarding the individuals.
I smelled a rotten fish on the very first day I got involved in this thing called the Tibetan Cause.
It turned out that it wasn´t a fish at all but a school of very large whales that dominate the ocean of tears that have flowed from the eyes of innocent Tibetans.
Shame on them and on those that are using this tragic situation as a blanket to hide the dirty little things they are doing to themselves and others under it !
With “friends” and “leaders” like you guys have there is no need at all for any enemy.
You are the most successful refugees in history with the most unsuccessful Cause.
Shame, shame, crying shame !
I feel deeply disturbed.
Jamyang Norbu la, I dont buy your assummptions n seems like n all. I am looking for a exact piece of imformation n evidences, not speculations.but nice reading your crazy mind. haha
Jamyang Norbu la
When you write “RFA listeners have told me”, it means you never heard such thing by yourself.
It is your democratic right to express your own view. But the manner in which you present your arguments is so hostile that many of people who follow you also hold such hostile attitude toward the Tibetan government in Exile.
Is it healthy? Rangzen and Middle Way are not like Shia and Sunni.
I hope your fanatic like hostile attitude has nothing to do with your personal dislike with someone in Dharamsala.
While you are writing something, please remember among your readers they are many young Tibetans who will be the main component of Tibetan society.
Teach them to respect different views. The beauty of democracy lies in this virtue.
An interesting one sided article. i am curious to know the other side of the coin too before judging. People should not jump to conclusion with just one sided story though I have huge respect for JN. And furthermore Tibetan issue can be resolved by Tibetans and Chinese alone.
JN, Stop lamenting and join the cause. 87 Tibetans have so far self-immolated for Rangwang and Return of HH Dalai Lama to Tibet.
as usual, these are nothing, the exile politics, factional fighting and finger pointing, all these have nothing to do with tibetan inside tibet.
Jamyang La, what should we do beside finger pointing to others? Please, you can lead us if you can. Should we blow up the railroad from Amdo to Lhasa? Tell us, what should we do?
Hello Jamyang La. Thank you so much for detail information. Don’t worry jamyang la. We are always with you. We have to speak up. Thats not a right to do. We saying that, “we have a fully democratic”. If we have fully democratic, we have a right to speak up. Thats why, we need a opposition party in our Tibetan policy. Its very important. I always appreciate to your views. Keep it up. You have right to speak and write.
the matter is put on comprehensively, lashed the CTA like he is par or above it. AND espically the frontrunners, thats not fair jamyang lak. through these pieces and advocating the principle you are loosing more then what you are expecting to gain…..
and lastly, your die hard fan or friend lhasang tsering should be the chief of investigating committee…haha
These are really impressive ideas in on the topic of blogging.
You have touched some good things here. Any way keep up wrinting.
In all this mess, who is the winner in the end? American government? Tibetan Government? Chinese Government? Tibetan activitist for Tibetan rangzen?
1. American government might save some couple of millions of $$$$ from tax-payers, but might loose a human rights card when they are re-concentrating to South East Asia. But it is not a big deal.
2. Tibetan government might be so ineffective without the funding from the US and its support, at least in words if not in real action that many Tibetans would like to see. So, threat of cutting financial assistance or at least warning of re-considering such support in the future is an unthinkable due to trivial nature of exile politics. Maybe it definitely serves a purpose of satisfying hardcore rangzen activist at least they getting support for their crusade against dead CTA.
3. Chinese government wins the most. It does not have to spend billions to shut down Dharamsala and leave dissatisfied people with individual views how stronger it is, will be totally ineffective or effective to a minimal level.
4. Will Tibetan activist for rangzen will gain their recongition of independence from other countries? will they be a legitimate representative of Tibetan people in the event of Dharamsala shutdown? Even if in the post demise of Dharamsala, TYC at least on paper represent Tibetan independence or fighting for it, will it be allowed to operate in India? The fault with Tibetan acctivist for rangzen is, that they think all will be changed for better if Dharamsala reinstate independence. The activist group is as delusional as TGIE. It is so unfortunate that rangzen activist knows the geopolitical contrainst and atmosphere in the world…..but knowingly crusade agianst the dead CTA…what use?
My personal view is, TGIE should not directly or indirectly influence Tibetan Radio services which is outside of its juristic and financial control. It is basically one of foreign news broadcasting institution or propaganda agent. It could be helpful when used properly, but can be detrimental when used with too much “balanced news”. We know, we might loose, but not life, there are people who relies on the news either encouraged or for whatever reasons, gets killed, shall we say “freedom fighters”, “rangzen fighters”? Wait, what about their children? Can you die leaving you kids behind with nothing? I am not fussing about whether it is right or not…..it seems there is a delusion that Tibetans inside believes that TGIE and Tibetans outside kicking CHinese ass (because of news they heard…nothing concrete evidence), Tibetans outside always outspoken about their believes that Tibetans inside are the real Tibetans, as long as they are not happy, we will represent them and speak (but not fight and sacrifice personal comfort). This gap in thinking makes situation worse…..it is sad that many Tibetans still believes that RFA and VOA are the only broadcasting institutions and worst, they believe it is funded by TGIE. It is not. Both radio stations are remnents of Cold War era war, there were Radio from free Europe and same with VOA. Tibetan section is one of the hundreds. They are not funded by TGIE, they are funded US congress.
My final opinion is, TGIE should refocus on its own policy and initiatives, stop getting unnecessary destractions. Rangzen activitist should fight as individuals or NGOs like TYC…..should not impose your views onto others, let others decide their political stance. There is nothing mine is better than yours. Politics changes overtimes…..before change comes, there might not be any Tibetans left to enjoy that freedom sunshine….so take care of your familes and kids…..
Good folksNG
If u truly believe every word u have said then I would request u to respond on wht the fello “ny” has pointed out. I think its ur responsibility since u have shared so much information, be it true or not. One thing I don’t understand is how could u compare our exile govt with a chinese communist party? But then again I understand that this is ur way of helping the tibetan cause. I admire ur path coz its dary but be careful, u could end up with a punch on ur face. Its not a warning. I am just a simple tibetan girl. By the way, we all sensed your hate for our prime minister n the govt that he is leading coz you think he is the person who sacked a person frm his job who gave you your job? Hmm! N yes! I think you got carried away some where in middle, while trying to tell how wrong he or she is, coz it made me think “is he trying to get a post in our govt? May be he is trying for next prime minister’s post frm now itself”. May be I am wrong. But at some point of time you were comparing yourself with him.
Liu VS Ngabo
Thanks for the BIG picture (political Tibet, CTA, CCP etc) and ah yes the background for the Radio Free Asia story.
If the sources of your accounts are to be relied upon – Libby Liu comes across very unprofessional. Kalden Lodoe did the right thing in the eyes of CTA & scored a huge success . But he also forgot to do his homework & now has the CTA Sikyong in hot water with a certain Congressman. The question is did these two individuals break any rules & regulations of their actual employer –RFA?
When will they come out with their version of the story? On what grounds did President Libby Liu dismiss Ngabo?
Ngabo Jigme on the other hand – turns out to have behaved professionally. He seems to have adhered to the guidelines and rules of journalism to the T.
http://www.rfa.org/english/about/codeofethics.html
to jampa dolma, you be very careful of what you say. if you think you can thwart our right to speak and think freely you dont know nothing.
I enjoy reading JN article and his far sighted vision. I call him Paper Rangzen Warrior. But when it comes to reality now(Ground control) it is really not feasible and realistic. Especially when Geo politics is not on Tibetans side.
Maybe after 30 or 40 years JN maybe right but right now the only and the best option we have is to chalk and compromise things with China.
The sad thing is time is not on our side so we cannot wait for 30 or 40 years while our culture and religion is being wiped.
It seems my spececulation is coming true…..enjoy Tibetan and Tibet Support Crusaders against CTA…..plz making more allegations and shutdown the system….you might be welcomed and richly awarded in Peking! Your motivation might be pure, but your action is fucked up…..democracy functions within limitations made by human beings…no such as absolute freedom, even the land of democracy and freedoms are not free….so dont expect absolute FREEDOM….cheers!
Tibetan Parliament Saddened by Baseless Allegations Against CTA on RFA Issue
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November 28, 2012 12:48 pm
Hon. Dana Rohrabacher
Chairman
Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations
Committee on Foreign Affairs
November 23, 2012
Sir,
With reference to your letter addressed to the democratically elected Sikyong of the Central Tibetan Administration, the Tibetan Parliament in Exile wish to express the following concerns:
1. The United States of America as an advanced democratic nation is someone that all other democratic countries around the world look up to as an example and inspiration for its democratic functioning and practices. Therefore we were deeply saddened by the denigrating and unparliamentary language that a person of your stature has used in the letter.
2. We are also taken aback by your action to publicize the content of the letter, which are clearly based on insinuation and hearsay even before the Sikyong could respond to your allegations. This has caused much speculation amongst Tibetans both within and outside Tibet, and caused unwarranted damages to the integrity and credibility of the Central Tibetan Administration.
3. Concerning the internal matters of Radio Free Asia, we would like to assure you that we have neither in the past nor will we ever in the future interfere in its functioning. However, keeping in view the objective of the Radio service, we have expressed our opinion and concerns in and outside the Tibetan Parliament in Exile regarding contents of some programs of Radio Free Asia in the past and we shall do so in future as well, which we consider is well within our democratic rights. (We will be happy to provide transcript of the debate in the parliament.)
4. Above all we are alarmed at the serious allegations that you have made regarding misuse of US funding assistance for the Tibetans. We wish to state in unequivocal terms that any assistance by US received through the Central Tibetan Administration are accounted and audited through proper democratic mechanisms with full transparency and accountability. We welcome scrutiny by any US agency on this matter.
5. The position of the Central Tibetan Administration in resolving the Tibetan Issue is unanimously approved by the Tibetan Parliament in Exile and US government has stood firmly behind us. We have nothing to say on your personal position on the Tibet Issue.
Your letter coming at a time when we are going through the darkest period of our history in view of the extremely grave situation on Tibet of Tibetans being driven to self immolations, your letter was most unfortunate.
Sincerely,
Speaker
Tibetan Parliament in Exile
(Unanimous decision taken by the Standing Committee of Tibetan Parliament-in-Exile)
Cc: 1. H.E. President of United States of America
2. Hon’ble President of Senate
3. Hon’ble Speaker, House of Representative
4. Respected Members of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs
5. Respected Secretary of the State
6. Special Representative for Tibet
7. Respected Members of Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations
8. Broadcasting Board of Governors
9. Ms. Libby Liu, President of RFA
10. Hon’ble Sikyong, CTA, Dharamsala
11. Office of Tibet, New York
dont be sad about this. this is something we can learn from and make sure such a thing never ever happens again. instead be sad about whats happening in Tibet.Bod Gyalo!
Dear NewGenerationTB and others…….
Do you really think the Congressman would waste his time making such accusations without evidence? We have many pressing issues in the US at this time and I doubt the Congressman would make an issue of this unless there was some serious evidence.
The parliament’s statement that the Congressman’s letter is “clearly based on insinuation and hearsay” sounds foolish since I doubt the parliament has had access to the same evidence as the Congressman who serves as Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations had.
You also asked “Who benefits from this?” Democracy benefits from this. There are many powerful members of Tibetan society who seem to think they don’t have to play by the same rules as everyone else. They say there is democracy in exile, but their actions say the opposite. Why are these leaders so afraid of free speech? Without unfettered free speech, democracy has no chance of survival.
NY:
I know JN by his work and he won’t reply to your presumptuous queries. So here is my answer for you.
1. Are you saying the director was removed by an “independent board”? I think it is pretty clear to everyone that termination was done by RFA director Ms Liu may be with or without the influence from outside. BTW he is connecting the dot to the greater plot of the Chinese to remake its image. Read from the beginning.
2. Public memory is short. Do you remember S Rinpoche calling Rangzen activists are more dangerous than Shugden practitioner or communist towards the end of his second term? Now who is dividing the Tibetan community? Do you think the Rangzen activists are so dangerous to our society? Check out today’s news, read the Sangay Dolmas last words, look at what she had tattooed on her hand; do you think she is trying to divide the Tibetan community by the idea of Independent Tibet?
3. Both Kashag and Parliament has raised serious concern and warning about airing views contradicting with the official view to both the Tibetan printed media as well as on air. Read the latest statement from Parliament to the US Senator. CTA never pin point name or cite evidence, so there never call on few staffs as you imagined. Can you be clearer here about what the rumors are and who called His Holiness by names?
4. Might be true, because none or may be a few have any journalistic experience prior joining either RFA or VOA (Gyari tsangs personal channel)..Some more rumors and want to dig in this nest too! It seems Gyari can call for interview anytime he wants! All staff are trained on the job and overall they didn’t do too badly until now.
5. Chinese have manipulated the whole world…no surprise here. Can you be more specific on what is your question here presuming all these are questions.
6. Don’t you understand the CTA’s stand? Do you think CTA is fighting against the Communist Party for regaining our freedom, or giving up our rights by succumbing to CCP’s diktat. CTA accepts the legitimacy of the communist rule over Tibet, so where is the point of being the most important institution to fight against the communist. You assertion is self contradictory.
7. In the life science, evolution by natural selection is not rather natural but rather random. Aren’t our democracy left on our platter by His Holiness, do you think it is natural?
If you think this whole narrative is splitting may be you are looking for a homogenized, monotonous, play by the order, Tibetan society like the communist who dress, speak, walk the same chord. Who explicitly shows order which is rather immense disorder inside? Do you want all Tibetans to hold their view and succumb? Then better live under the communist.
Public bashing! Are you serious? Are you trying to threaten people here bringing in the fundamentalists practices.
8. What more negative atmosphere you looking for? Since 59, things are had always been negative on our side and its grimmer now. With this call I suspect your motivations and connection to these whole events, rather than calling to critique the author you are calling for people to get rid of him and that too by playing the usual card of HH, like everyone is doing in this narrative.
Oh, so everyone who doesn’t buy His Holiness ideals is a threat to the whole community! What an ideal!
9. When one’s own government is busy silencing the dissent within its own community, how can the same government fight with the oppressors for the same action? Getting rid of people is practiced by the communists, like they do with every Tibetan activists, singer, writer or poet.
Rather than calling for getting rid of people, which I understand here as to eliminate people of their very existence or their opinions from the public is an act of barbarian.
JAMPA DOLMA- simple Tibetan girl grow up! JN is connecting the dot to the bigger plot of Chinese communist, he is not comparing our govt to that of Chinese.
After Jamyang Norbu’s rants and personal attacks on Sikyong Lobsang Sangay in the run-up to the election, I lost a lot of respect towards him. This article shows his continuing decline, and really sad to watch.
It is another wonderful writing of Jamyang la after his thorough study and research on Tibetan struggle spending lots of time and energy as if we read carefully then we can understand it. The openness and the level of free speech require in order to feel that we are in free land and exile tibetan enjoy freedom is getting difficult each day. Because whether its good for CTA or not, whatever any Tibetan says and wish are the right of an individual to say for which there shouldn’t be suppression and discouragement but that is ever increasing since some years ago and it is well proved with removal of such dedicated person from RFA directly or indirectly influencing people to do it.
Trusting communist regime is like a mad man work as Communist party themselves are suffering and falling from everywhere due to their own ruling their own country with so much of suppression and depressions. We should be standing strong towards the freedom and rightful justice regardless of time and condition. We should not compromise for the right and justice.
Tibetan parliament members are sometimes merely for the annual meeting and guest of honors in function/ceremony only as we can all know in reality the no work and no contribution of anything of these members. All members supporting CTA on everything is clear indication of their easy way to work rather then studying the actual and also to question CTA Time to Tiime on important things…
It is Hight Time and it is the Time to realize that CTA is merely a group of registered organization in India and actually we all are doing like this and that for one and only TIBET…
SO, please respect freedom of speech, choice and decision…. We can learn alot on this from great India as though lots of corruption and fight in parliament verbally this also indicate clearly of freedom that all of them enjoy as a citizen of this wonderful country. I am a big fan and I am an Indian by birth and always proud of this awesome country.
Drong Me
It is public knowledge that Kundun has been very clear on his views on the role of media, in his many press conferences around the world Kundun often uses words such as:’investigate’ ‘truthful’ ‘open’ ‘not biased”free press’ to describe the proper role of the foreign media.
Today the tables are turned against us with the letter from Congressman Dana Rohrabacher.( Congressman Rohrabacher was a leading voice for US to boycott the Beijing Olympics).
Jamyang la in this article clearly supports the very points that are dear to His Holiness.
I would urge all who agree with His Holiness on the subject of Free Press,to write to your chithue representatives with a copy also sent to His Holiness private office in Dharamsala outlining your outrage and a call for a thorough investigation immediately.
Thank you Jamyang la for article which always shed lights on the dark side of our soceity.
I always believe the saying ”in politics, there is no absolute honesty, but only interest”. So,I think this is also the same case in our government. However, as a Tibetan having lived under the absolute dictatorship and totalitarian regime of china and having experienced of deprivation of basic human right, i know how important it is for a citizen of democratic country to question whether his government functions fairly or not so that power is not corrupted. Therefore, I fully support Jamyang norbu la for bringging up such contentious topics which I believe is not meant for dividing our soceity rather making effort to make our politiciams and government more transparent, because a true democratic government comes into being not by praising and blind faith but by challenging with issues that concerns us.
… and a Chinese boss for Radio Free Asia!
UScitizen@Nobody is afraid of nothing. Free speech is good until it misleads people. Here it comes in the so called rules and regulations. Here it comes in government monitors where each citizen moves….there is no privacy, no freedom as we niavely think….. Mr Congressman might be right in his own right and I just shot a warning to Tibetans making too much “fuss” out of this. I did not pass judgement on “his” statement. We do know Tibetans are vulnerable, both inside and outside. Everyone is playing on the vulnerability, of course there are sincere supporters, geopolitics cannot be sincere, it only plays whenever beneficial, that is the nature, rules of international politics. It seems Mr NOrbu failed to see it. He is safe on the hills of Tennessee…. Free speech might be be good for a mature society, for a less educated society, democracy could be a mess….Our democracy is on the way….US democracy took 200 years to mature to today’s state. We are just over half a decades, so dont expect the same, moreoever, our government considers the victims inside first than politics of individuals. If there are Tibetans who play outside the rules, Tibetans have to deal with that honestly, we dont need unnecessary outside distractions. We are here not to infight…..we are here for a purpose…..
JN is started landing himself so low….I have been a keen observer and reader of his writings, he is at best when he writes about the historical comments…..he ideas about todays’ politics is polarizing, dramimatic, divisive with litte returns. When Ngobo died, TGIE honored himself as an honest patriot…..JN as crying fouls because turning a “traitor” into “patriot” by TGIE is not right in his view…. Now Junior Ngapo is dismissed from his positions for whatever reasons, JN is surprisingly standing up to defend the sons of “kudra” and later “collaborator” and “traitor” Ngabo…..It is bit puzzling when Fahter enjoyed Communist previleges in Beijing and Son promoting so called JN’s rangzen or rather a “balanced view” on the international stage, the father did not get in trouble……I am bit puzzled….JN is not worried….why? Because JN is bend to disband TGIE as long as his views are not respected by TGIE…..JN’s view at best viewed as individual….
NG
Additional: I was dismayed by Kalden Loeda’action during Kalachakra against TYC president Tsewang Rinzin…….but JN should not dragging in Kalden Loedo’s “X-MONK” status to prove something….what he meant? X-MONK are bad or meant something? This low talks is on the street with most of Tibetans who failed to respect people, calling names like that….I get annoyed when see people like that….most of them are uneducated or educated but not informed of important issues…..so, why JN? Does he has problem with his X-MONK status? Dude, he has right to disrobe or retain monkhood,…..leave this part of his life alone….
I remember when JN was crying foul when Goldstein wrote that a corrupt Tibetan officials had msitresses and printed the pictures or his mistresses on Goldstein’s book….he was mad…he turned it unprofessional in writing a history book….I was even at a talk show by JN, he compared to Kennedy having many affairs, but those were not part of his presidential story…..thus he reject Goldstein’s motives…I agreed and wholehearted agreed and even today I agree with JN….then what about Kalden’s X-MONK status? JN forgot his own writing and talk shows? Maybe getting old, that might be a factor…
NG
I hope there is a thorogh investigation. and if any individual is found guilty of influence-peddling or misuse of power they should be penalised and not be rewarded with a more lucrative portfolio like in the case of Gyari.after that huge controversy and his trial in the case of taiwan money, he was relieved of his duies in dharamsala and sent to the states to head the ICT where he continued to unleash his wheeling and dealing. so much for restoring confidence and trust in our public servants.
Who is trying to steal the attention away from those who seeks your attention and help by self immolation….
Jamyang Norbu,
I remember you once told me that you were no longer a member of “Dalai Lama’s fan club,” which at that time, made me speechless. If that comment is from your heart, why are you still attempting to disturb HH the Dalai Lama and others by writting such mixed assumptions and speculations.
What is your real motivation behind this long and twisted writing?
Janyang Norbu should be invited to the so called Tibetan Talk Show orgnanized by the shugdan people. This program is very suitable person like Jamyang Norbu and they can really express their sick political view on the Tibetan issue and so on.
#48.
Who is trying to misrepresent what the self-immolators are calling for … ?
Definitely, Gyari and Kalden Lodoe need to be outcastes from our society.
I’m thankful that Jamyang la came out with this piece.
As the Tibetan saying goes ‘duwa yoe na, me yoepa khyab’ (if there’s smoke, there’s bound to be fire), this case of RFA, if there was no involvement at all, I don’t see why people would sense it or as a matter of fact even point fingers to Individuals/Institution.
Personally, I’ve always been warned by some seniors (former & current) TGiE staff to be mindful of what I say of my political view and I’ve always wondered, why should i think before i speak of my country and my love for my country! Why should I be mindful speaking of reviving Tibet’s independence! Censorship does come from all levels of bureaucracy, from individuals to the institution.
I think there should be an independent investigation led by the US congress in this matter. Although it’s a pity having to say this, but i cannot trust a TGiE or the TPiE led investigation. We’re knowingly unknown for covering our own mistakes!
Before fighting the big fight with China, we have to be free ourselves. Then only can we have the strength.
if we dont have a person like JN, then we like in a dark society. The beauty of JN’s writings, he allows anyone to comment anything they wish, without resenting and censoring it. But look at CTA and Tibetan leaders. Why cant they tolerant criticism. There must be a thorough investigation at RFA, it is very fishy, the way everything things is handled. RFA president and Kalden Lodoe have blatantly violated RFA code of journalisme ” journalists must remain independent of any political party, opposition group, exile organization, or religious body in the countries to which RFA news and information are disseminated, and must not advocate any political viewpoint potentially compromising or being perceived as compromising RFA’s objectivity or impartiality”.
RFA president is said to have raised Kalden Lodoe’s pay so high, that all other staffs who like the same are jealousy of it.
Rangzen wallas cheers for unneessary distractions…..you succeeded! Give yourself a pad on the BACK……
http://india.nydailynews.com/business/44cf56852ec3ea2ed28c1fdc54dd941c/ready-for-probe-on-us-funding-says-tibetan-administration
NG
In the end, again a trouble from son of Kudra (Jamyang Norbu) about a dismissal of a son of another Kudra (Jigmei Ngabo) Albeit a son of Chinese communist collaborator…..when can Tibetans come out of fucking greedy kudra rule….dont follow blindly, do your research, educate yourself, you have all the power and all tools are available these days.
NG
Highly concerned Tibetans, lets call it a cease fire for 5 mins, I have a simple proposal to make before we talk about lofty issues like Free Speech, Democracy etc.
Rep. Dana who slapped the fiery letter on our sikyong LS’s face is a ranking member in the US Congress. He’s the chairman of House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation – pretty powerful man with huge responsibility! When someone like him sends such a strongly worded letter on his official letter pad to a Sikyong there has to be some smoke!
Existence of CTA is very important to us, so is support for it US Congress and financial aid from the US to run our govt. If you all really care about the betterment of our govt, lets stop smearing mud on JN and let’s request Congressman Dana to investigate fully, using his power as Chairman on Oversight and Investigation, to find out if any member of TGIE, current or former, is involved in controlling or influencing news and editorial of RFA or sacking Ngapo. If the congressman can provide us evidence that sikyong Lobsang Sangay is involved in meddling with the pvt business of RFA and it is costing us support and funding from the US govt, then clearly LS is doing more harm than helping us! He mustn’t be in the office. Lets all ask him to resign or urge Chithues to impeach him. Fair enough? Gyari, Samdhong Rinpoche or Lobsang Sangay, no matter who they are, they don’t matter when it comes to preserving the integrity of and existence of our govt. They are like trains in a train station – if one leaves another comes!
Second, when the Congressman sent the letter, sikyong Lobsang Sangay responded almost next day, denying categorically having met Libby Liu anytime, let alone to ‘influence’ the decision to fire Ngapo in question.
According to this article, JN says LS and Liu met not once but a couple times and one of them at least to discuss firing Ngapo. This is pretty serious allegation too. We certainly don’t want a Prime Minister who lies to an important US leader and us about such a serious matter. Why not ask sikyong Lobsang Sangay to respond to JN’s allegations and find out who’s lying. This whole thing is not about somebody getting fired anymore. Fair enough? When investigating the truth behind such a serious allegation, no one is above it, even Lobsang Sangay, our sikyong.
You all talk about caring about His Holiness and following His advice. I know His Holiness must be embarrassed with this whole development. Let’s get to the bottom of this and punish whoever is involved from CTA and make CTA corrupt free, and make His Holiness proud! Fair enough??? Good!
“The Responsibility for the Ngapo Jigme Incident Lies with Radio Free Asia and not with Tibetan Exile Society” By Woeser
High Peaks Pure Earth has translated a blogpost written by Woeser on November 21, 2012 and posted on her blog on the same day. This blogpost is a follow up to Woeser’s blogpost of November 9, 2012, titled “Why Was Ngapo Jigme, Director of Radio Free Asia’s Tibetan Service, Suddenly Dismissed?”.
Following the dismissal of Ngapo Jigme, Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, wrote letters to both Radio Free Asia and also to Lobsang Sangay, the Prime Minister (Sikyong) of the Tibetan Government-In-Exile, calling for an explanation of the “circumstances of Ngapo’s termination and departure”. The letter to Radio Free Asia dated November 15, 2012 can be found on Rohrabacher’s website here: http://rohrabacher.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=312586
The focus of Woeser’s short blogpost below is the strong-worded letter that Rohrabacher sent to Sikyong Lobsang Sangay dated November 19, 2012, the full text of which can be found here: http://rohrabacher.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=312591
Finally, on November 21, 2012, Sikyong Lobsang Sangay issued a public statement that can be found online here: http://tibet.net/2012/11/21/statement-of-sikyong-lobsang-sangay-on-allegations-related-to-radio-free-asia-2/
The Responsibility for the Ngapo Jigme Incident Lies with Radio Free Asia
and not with Tibetan Exile Society
——Thoughts on US Congressman Rohrabacher’s letter to the
Central Tibetan Administration Sikyong Lobsang Sangay
By Woeser
After seeing US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher’s letter to the Central Tibetan Administration Sikyong Lobsang Sangay, I was shocked in the same way as I first heard the news that Mr. Nagpo Jigme was dismissed by RFA. Since at present the information I have obtained so far is incomplete and there is also the language barrier, it might be possible for me to misunderstand the situation. However, based on what I have seen, I feel the need to express my views:
1. Mr. Ngapo Jigme was dismissed by USA’s Radio Free Asia and not by the Central Tibetan Administration, therefore, in my opinion, in relation to this incident, Rep. Rohrabacher has to direct the responsibility of investigation towards Radio Free Asia’s management, not towards exile Tibetan society.
2. I think that individuals as well as organisations have the right to like or dislike a media, this opinion can be expressed; if this is merely an opinion, this is not overstepping any boundaries.
3. What is important is media independence, external matters or attitudes should not have any bearing on personnel matters or moreover the content of the news, this would be stifling the freedom of the press. Even if Radio Free Asia is motivated by its sympathy to the Tibetan cause, it cannot violate the basic principles of the democratic freedom of the press. That kind of activity would actually be harmful to the Tibetan cause.
4. For more than half a century, the Tibetan exile government has made tremendous contributions that is clear for all to see, Rep. Rohrabacher’s criticism of Radio Free Asia’s dismissal of Mr. Ngapo Jigme should not turn into sweeping generalisations.
5. I believe that Tibetan exile society needs to raise the level of its own political modernisation. This kind of modernisation is not just the appearance of democracy only on the surface but a real understanding of and compliance with the ideas and principles of democracy, especially to accommodate a variety of views, receive criticism, as well as to monitor those who are in control, these things are the true essence of democracy.
6. I am grateful to Rep. Rohrabacher for his attention to the Tibet issue, at the same time I hope that Rep. Rohrabacher will withdraw criticism directed toward Tibetan exile leaders, and instead direct it towards Radio Free Asia.
Tsering Woeser
November 21, 2012
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What’s the difference between CCP and TGE if-
1. TGE hate rangzen activist. CCP hate Tibetan, Ugyur and other freedom fighters.
2. TGE is still a one party system so as CCP.
3. TGE alienate Shugden followers to death. CCP persecute Falungong and other religious groups. TGE’s handling of Shugden issue is in fact one of the lowest point in our exile history. TGE divided and created rift among Tibetans.
4. TGE’s knowledge about how monolithic China function is utterly minimal so as CCP’s knowledge about how the democratic society works.
5. TGE hates the word rangzen so as CCP.
What’s the difference between CCP and TGE if-
1. TGE hate rangzen activist. CCP hate Tibetan, Ugyur and other freedom fighters.
2. TGE is still a one party system so as CCP.
3. TGE alienate Shugden followers to death. CCP persecute Falungong and other religious groups. TGE’s handling of Shugden issue is in fact one of the lowest point in our exile history. TGE divided and created rift among Tibetans.
4. TGE’s knowledge about how monolithic China function is utterly minimal so as CCP’s knowledge about how the democratic society works.
5. TGE hates the word rangzen so as CCP.
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@51—JN,LS,SE,TD,CB,Tpr………..so called EXPERTS.
Thank you for this entertainment piece on RFA and ngapo’s episode..its entertaining going through sharuk kahn punch,govinda’s kunfu kick and asrani’s slap.
Its nice to go through people’s personal stuff sometimes..enjoyed it!
I read JN’s blog and comments. It is sad our community has become so oriented with speculation and listen to these things without any clear observation. JN’s writing on issues related to Tibetan community alway based on nearsay and gossip around him. This is proved by this one. As said in some of view expressed earlier what ever he said is mostly told to him by his friends in RFA like Karma Zurkhang. Yes, I believe in free press but free press has to be preserved by both audience as well as the media outlet itself. Problem with radio talk show which JN is one of the contributor is the show has became source of degenerating value of fair and unbiased journalism in RFA. Unlike JN,I used to listen to this program and both JN and its host Karma Zurkhang alway stay on one track attacking CTA or its officials. This never happens in Sean Hannity’s show. He always challenge the guest on issues equally but that never happens in Karma Zurkhang’s talk show JN is guest for the show. On this issue Jigme Ngapo never use his power to control the editorial problem. One reason why JN is too supportive of Jigme Ngapo this time is because he lost is heaven like platform to say anything he wish say against Dharamsala and its leaders. Although firing of Jigme Ngapo is internal matter of RFA and we don’t have any clue why his service was terminated. But what concerns me is why leadership of CTA brought into this game. We also need to study very seriously way Rangzen Alliance brought the Congressman Dana’s letter and press release on their website and now JN’s wrote this article without any mention of Sekyong’s reply to Congressman. JN also praised Jigme Ngapo as Rangzen fighter. Jigme Ngapo has no contact with CTA or Tibetan Community since he became Director of RFA. He never attend any events of HH the Dalai Lama in DC. Jn said “The Dalai Lama wholeheartedly supported his appointment”. I don’t know what is his source. Ngapo Jigme got he job at FA because of recommendation from Chinese scholars in US. One time one former Katri Samdhong Rinpoche ‘s visit DC one form audience asked question regarding CTA’s relation with RFA and SR clear told audience that they have couple of issues with broadcast material and wrote of letter RFA Director and RFA Director ignored their concern and never received any reply from them. So, we have to judge from both angle. JN la if you are truelly Ranzen fighter please try to save Tibetan community and don’t divide them. MOOK BAHADUR ONLY WILL GAIN RANGZEN>
Somebody up there said ‘well if the congressman says so then there must be something’.
So must they believe when the congressman in 2007 said that “the Last Ice Age was caused by Dinosaur FART”.
To NewgenerationB: Get to the issue and stop being a racist SOB that you have always been in these forums. We don’t need communist brain washed ignorant fools like you to divide our people and society. After a thorough read on Tibetan history, the Tibetan aristocracy, I am afraid to say, that the Kudras of old Tibet has contributed much to our history, weather we like it or not. So focus on the issue of this forum, and stop inciting hate and and falsehoods. I am not a Kudra, or defending the Kudras. This rant is getting old, and one needs to read and educate yourself and get the facts straight on these baseless stories that we used to hear about Kudras. I thought these Kudras had horns and blood in their mouths, the way these stories came accross to me as a young lad. In the West, where they have done research and studies of Tibetan history, in no way suggest the Kudras have sold or mistreated their own people.
Jamyang la, Thanks for the article.
If you really think that CTA is behind dismissal of Ngapo Jigme please come up with some solid proof. Merely writing and speaking will not help. This will miss lead Tibetan mass. For Example : Please refer the comment entered by LHAMO TSERING. She think CTA is same as CCP. Do you think so??
Ngapo Jigme was fired by RFA not by CTA. So, the question “WHY” has to be put to RFA not CTA. I know you are critics of CTA but please appreciate the work done by CTA. I am not a CTA official and wanted to see a free Tibet. You are a rangzen advocate and we youngster really want to know your idea and method in achieving independence for Tibet. I would greatly appreciate if you could write an article how to achieve independence rather than denouncing CTA and it’s members.
@Jab chung: I think JN did meet with shungden people in NYC recently. Correct me if i am wrong.
1. Im curious to know who tipped off to congressmen in california?
2. Why isn’t Nagbo Jigme saying something to stop the speculation?
3. LS and CTA clearly stated they are not involved in Ngabo dismal, why are there so many ppl not taking their word and still speculating?
4. How has this turned into Middleway and Rangzen issue?
5. What about VOA, Tibet Times, VOT have they been asked to censor as well?
6. I thought main reason Lobsang Nyendak called RFA staff to the office at ICT was so they can go back to work instead of protesting because Tibetans in Tibet wouldn’t get news. And it would be a great lost.
Im sorry, obviously i don’t know much and therefore have many questions. I am sad we have come to this point in our struggle where we have to start pointing fingers at each other. I believe we must be united before we can challenge the great dragon. Obviously, right now we are in no shape to challenge Chinese administration. I don’t think we can succeed if internally we are not clear, this view can cause alot of misunderstanding to our supporters. Lets not lose anymore time.
If someone can please provide me with insight on those questions.
@Sangay post #57: Now that is a very sensible comment and puts the nation first over any one person. Bravo!
Now, thanks to the Tibetan parliament who involved all the powerful individuals of the United States government in their letter, we will be sure to see some sort of resolution. It may not be intended as such but the end result is that it has taken it off the hands of Tibetans now and put it squarely in the hands of the responsible authorities of the United States government.
If it is proven that the our people are indeed involved in this scandal, then they should be kickd out office to save the dignity of the institution and the struggle. Individuals are expendable, our institutions are not.
I wonder when Jamyang Norbu la will stop using the shoulders of every rising controversial Tibetan issues to quench his personal revenge against His Holiness,Lobsang Sangay,Pempa Tsering or whosoever targeted.
Why not Jayang Norbu la contest for the post of Sikyong/TPiE and change the whole system if he sees so much wrong its current functions.
Note: Hugely admire Jayang Norbu la for his literary excellence and passion for Tibetan struggle.
Tsering Dorjee, post 68 need to fact check, statement of Sangay, post 57:
Second, when the Congressman sent the letter, sikyong Lobsang Sangay responded almost next day, denying categorically having met Libby Liu anytime, let alone to ‘influence’ the decision to fire Ngapo in question.
According to this article, JN says LS and Liu met not once but a couple times and one of them at least to discuss firing Ngapo. This is pretty serious allegation too. We certainly don’t want a Prime Minister who lies to an important US leader and us about such a serious matter. Why not ask sikyong Lobsang Sangay to respond to JN’s allegations and find out who’s lying. This whole thing is not about somebody getting fired anymore. Fair enough? When investigating the truth behind such a serious allegation, no one is above it, even Lobsang Sangay, our sikyong.
Lobsang Sangay Statement:
Dharamsala, INDIA – It is unfortunate that the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) and my name have been dragged into internal matters related to the Tibetan Service of Radio Free Asia (RFA). I want to categorically state that I have never approached either RFA President Ms. Libby Liu or members of the Broadcasting Board of Governors on matters related to RFA personnel. I, therefore, have nothing to do with developments between RFA management and Mr. Jigme Ngapo. Allegations of interference on personnel matter are completely baseless.
Lobsang Sangay did not say in his official statement, of denying meeting Libby Liu. He did not approach her in matters relating to RFA.
JN to Luby Liu–> Tumey apnaa bannaney kee kasam kayee yay!kAYEE YAY!
Some of you guys must be deaf, dumb and blind to think that Lobsang Singay is the Pinball Wizard !!!! A guy that has spent more time and energy ( on all levels )with the chinese than on anything else.
This all comes down to individual responsibility and that is something JN grasped a long, long time ago ! When all has been said and done we will all fall, die or simply fade away.
JN, his stance,his writings, his legacy will remain as part of Tibetan history.
Don´t be hateful or jealous just accept that this is a man that stands for what he believes in.
The Cause has only a few such individuals and it´s a pity but at least these few should be respected for taking on the task that HH and all other religious leaders demand of us as individuals, that being not to stoop low and hide in the crowd but to stand up and speak out for truth and justice !
hay ppl.. I really wonder why my comment is not approved to be posted??. I have shared my thoughts and feeling which meant me A LOT!! Pls come on what is happening in Tibet?? I am Bangalore college student from Amdo Ngaba. My brother and two of neighbors set on fire for the cause of Tibet several months back. It is really disturbing. They think and then act. We really need to act rather than giving lip service. JN..Don’t tell people you are writing for Tibet, you are hungry for your self interest. Community is more important than individual. If you can not work for the betterment of common people, don disturb those who are working for them. We need to think how can we stop burning human torches in Tibet. Keep aside RFA at this crucial time. Tibet is burning..
I Totally agree with Wangtop la Comments.on November 27th post.Jamyang la needs to come out and work for CTA…hiding some place and putting a fire.next time before you write anything just look at H.H Picture(Khubar)and you know what to do…
Jamyang Norbu’s article though long, is just a tip of iceberg. There is lot more information doing rounds in Dharamsala.
One small fry viciously out of picture is ‘part-time’ D.C. resident called Kalsang Aukastang (KA), who also liked to be called “David Alexrod of Lobsang Sangay” ( for those who don’t know Alexrod, he is considered Obama’s brain, his strategist.)
Sikyong was in D.C. on an official visit along his ‘Alexrod, Aukastang, during the summer. Aukastang told VOA staff that ” their main mission is to lobby BBG ( Broadcasting Board of Governors) to promote Libby-liu’s good work.’ He also told VOA boss, that Libby( RFA President) has promised structural changes at RFA and wants to know what Tibetan service of VOA has to offer?”
There is also information that these very high level Tibetan officials are putting pressure on international human rights organizations (like reverse engineering.)
For, all ‘ I-Lhakpa Dolmas’ above wanting to slap JN , and all other sheepishly naive Tibetans:
If you care for the future of Tibet, keep a close eye on activities of these high level Tibetan officials and going-ons of people like Kalden Lodoe.
In the end, it is not going to be JN or Tsering Woeser who will stop you from singing Tibetan national anthem or raising Tibetan national flag, it will be the same group of people whose names are cropping up everywhere.
Please lit a lamp for all those who died and are dying for Tibet.
China lies…………. People dies……… Jamayang Norbu Lies…….. Tibetan in Tibet dies………
Jamyang Norbu, don’t make some baseless allegation to our Government with your personal hatred feeling…. if u keep on writing clueless accusation article like that your image will get down. Finally after reading the article from starting to bottom its crystal clear that you are the master mind behind the Congressman for letting him to write letter to our Sikyong….. Shame on you……. you don’t have any feeling of gratitude.
I think jamyang la is getting more popular among the educated lot after seeing all the hateful comments received.
I can well imagine what the state of affairs will be if Tibet became FREE today? Definitely there will be lot of bloodshed, infighting and power mongering… that will be the gift from our exile friends
Tempo @70, here are the words of Jamyang Norbu right from off the article:
“It also appears that in June of this year Lobsang Sangay, Libby Liu and Lobsang Nyandak, the representative of the Dalai Lama in New York, met in London and had discussions about the need to restructure RFA’s Tibetan service and to replace Jigme Ngabo”.
Now do me a favor. Go ahead and copy and paste here…..the statement issued by sikyong Lobsang Sangay under whatever Chodak’s name where he denies meeting with Liu regarding Ngapo’s dismissal or RFA. Thanks!
Now read both the excerpts and see it for yourself if they match so well that it almost sound like Javed sahab’s poetry, or horses and donkeys bundling together?
It’s your call if you want to take Lobsang Sangay’s words as teaching in the holy bible – irrefutable, blindly to be followed, no questions asked!
But sorry brother, it just doesn’t work like that with me. There are two men who are saying Lobsang Sangay met with Libby Liu for matters relating RFA and termination of Ngabo. One even (JN) even goes a step further and pin points where they met. And Lobsang Sangay issues a statement, in a manner that raises more suscipions than answer, denying having met Liu anytime or to quote LS himself “approaching” Liu “on matter related to RFA personnel”. Who do you believe??
A powerful Congressman is threatening that Lobsang Sangay’s conduct is “eroding” US support and funding for CTA and the dignity of TGIE is being damaged seriously. Don’t you want to get to the bottom of this mess? If you are a concerend Tibetan, time to believe anyone is over! It’s time to call for investigation! Period!
Janayang La, I don’t know Who you are and where you from? But I am sure that you are Tibetan and have some responsibility being a Tibetan.Your blood cannot change your identity even if you have western ideology or education.
So,Write something that helps for our cause in this very tragic period and will surely admire you and your writings. In this article, I do not understand whether you are making clarification from your heart or your are droping down our administration…. You can enjoy your democracy once we got our freedom back.. So, please keep this in your mind whenever you write . Thank you and Bhod Gyal Lo
I know this is a very important issue. US congress man criticized Dr Lobsang Sangay CTA and other Tibetan leaders. All of sudden Tibetan community, Kashag and Parliament jump in a defensive mode. I think most of us missed the point. But Woser got it in a right way. Please read it!
The Responsibility for the Ngapo Jigme Incident Lies with Radio Free Asia
and not with Tibetan Exile Society
——Thoughts on US Congressman Rohrabacher’s letter to the
Central Tibetan Administration Sikyong Lobsang Sangay
By Woeser
After seeing US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher’s letter to the Central Tibetan Administration Sikyong Lobsang Sangay, I was shocked in the same way as I first heard the news that Mr. Nagpo Jigme was dismissed by RFA. Since at present the information I have obtained so far is incomplete and there is also the language barrier, it might be possible for me to misunderstand the situation. However, based on what I have seen, I feel the need to express my views:
1. Mr. Ngapo Jigme was dismissed by USA’s Radio Free Asia and not by the Central Tibetan Administration, therefore, in my opinion, in relation to this incident, Rep. Rohrabacher has to direct the responsibility of investigation towards Radio Free Asia’s management, not towards exile Tibetan society.
2. I think that individuals as well as organisations have the right to like or dislike a media, this opinion can be expressed; if this is merely an opinion, this is not overstepping any boundaries.
3. What is important is media independence, external matters or attitudes should not have any bearing on personnel matters or moreover the content of the news, this would be stifling the freedom of the press. Even if Radio Free Asia is motivated by its sympathy to the Tibetan cause, it cannot violate the basic principles of the democratic freedom of the press. That kind of activity would actually be harmful to the Tibetan cause.
4. For more than half a century, the Tibetan exile government has made tremendous contributions that is clear for all to see, Rep. Rohrabacher’s criticism of Radio Free Asia’s dismissal of Mr. Ngapo Jigme should not turn into sweeping generalisations.
5. I believe that Tibetan exile society needs to raise the level of its own political modernisation. This kind of modernisation is not just the appearance of democracy only on the surface but a real understanding of and compliance with the ideas and principles of democracy, especially to accommodate a variety of views, receive criticism, as well as to monitor those who are in control, these things are the true essence of democracy.
6. I am grateful to Rep. Rohrabacher for his attention to the Tibet issue, at the same time I hope that Rep. Rohrabacher will withdraw criticism directed toward Tibetan exile leaders, and instead direct it towards Radio Free Asia.
Tsering Woeser
November 21, 2012
http://highpeakspureearth.com/2012/the-responsibility-for-the-ngapo-jigme-incident-lies-with-radio-free-asia-and-not-with-tibetan-exile-society-by-woeser/
What reality are we checking? I believe JN is checking reality. REality doesn’t have to conform to your narrow views. Reality means everything including something that is not obiviously observable or comprehensible but factual or that can draw a logical inferences/conclusions.
The reality is that democracy values differing opinions and i advice you not to whine but reason out your disagreement. After all, Jamyang Norbu has given us a FREE forum for discussion. He can take all of your negative criticism gracefully.
Jamyang Never censors those who disagree even in his personal blog.
Thank you. Without you, we are very silent and our leaders act like and speak like GOD. Of course I am taking His Holiness out of the exile politics.
thank you
I almost missed the dig made @ the Washington post. At this rate this may turn out to be our own RFA-Dhasa-Gate.
I think TSERING DORJEE has the right idea. In a democracy, open debate is the most important thing. The allegations made, and not just by JN in this article, warrant an investigation. If there is fire under this smoke, let us see it. If the accusations levelled against the TGIE are baseless then they have nothing to fear. Criticising JN is just shooting the messenger. I can’t help but distrust ALL politicians. Thankfully HHDL has forsaken his political role
Please guys, just because you are unidentifiable for the comments that you upload, So this makes you go Rambo boom boom free about he saying that and this.
Now Jamyang la has come out with an apology for a mistake in facts. I don’t think he should apologize for this. we never thought he is fact check all know machine. And of course his articles would carry lots of inaccurate and unsubstantiated comments. Lets check one ourselves.
Jamyang la writes that Xiao Wunan who went to Dharamsala was a United Front leader. Please enlighten us, just a fact check. And please don’t tell me he wrote there and this.
I think kaldenlodo is resiponssible for all this problem.He wants take over Ngapo jigme.So he is the person who played the game.That’s what I think.I hope CAT leaders were not involved in this dirty game.If CTA leaders does involved in this matter. Then chetu must investigate this matter and take action against person who ever responssible for that.If CTA leader has nothing to do with this matter then clearify to US goverment and tibetan public. Many Tibetan people think this is a not big deal and This is a game between ngapo and kaldenlodo, No it is wrong, It will become problem between US goverment and CTA.The reson why, There are thousand of thousand people fired from their job in USA every year no one cares that. But this Time US senator has send letter to CTA mention about this matter and said wrong doing about CTA leaders.So,we must take it as serious issu. Many Tibetan People just said that we love and Trust CTA we must flow what ever CTA says,No it is also wrong if you really love and care you must help CTA to investigate the matter, if they did wrong. take wrong people out and right people in.Don’t just flow them without knowing anything.People in Tibet also talking about this issu, They may loose their trust on CTA and us.They trust on us and they barn themself thinking that we are behand them and we will support them.We lost our country because of lack of unity in our soceity lack of trust between goverment and people not oly that Some official played dirty politics game for the power, When we have our country. We been through that.So we should not let ant individual to play this dirty politics game again. This is seriouse problem in our society in both old time and newtime.This is a seriouse disease that we carrys with generation to generatoins.Unity is our power who ever try to distroy it, We will fight against them.
Nice to see some good reporting on this mess. I hope Jigme is reinstated soon.
John
with these fighting china would be laughing at us.
Thank You Maura and thank you JN-la from silent majority. Please keep writing on the subject.
Democracy without freedom of speech and press is like body without a soul. In fact, we should have no right to call this sham, a democracy.
Also understand that it is not just JN who is ousted from RFA consultancy. Among people whose contract were not renewed include Kasur Sonam Topgyal and Jamyang Dorjee.
Sikyong and his thug’s aim is not just muzzle the voice of Rangzen but is also taking aims at each and everyone who supported Tenzin Namgyal Tethong’s candidacy for Kalon Tripa during the last election.
I used word thugs intentionally based on the things they have been doing.
Insiders tell us that Kalon Dickyi Choyang’s assignment includes monitoring fellow Kalon Gyari Dolma and Kalsang Aukstang’s duty include keeping an eye on Chithue Tsokstoe’s ambition.
Ever notice Kalsang Aukastang attending all possible public talks by Chithue Tsokstoe? It is sickening when one hear the cunningness of Sikyong.
Let’s do him a favor. Keep an eye on all this action with a positive mind. It will make him act/behave as a true leader. That will be our best contribution.
Thank You Maura and thank you JN-la from silent majority. Please keep writing on the subject.
Democracy without freedom of speech and press is like body without a soul. In fact, we should have no right to call this sham, a democracy.
Also understand that it is not just JN who is ousted from RFA consultancy. Among people whose contract were not renewed include Kasur Sonam Topgyal and Jamyang Dorjee.
Sikyong and his thug’s aim is not just muzzle the voice of Rangzen but is also taking aims at each and everyone who supported Tenzin Namgyal Tethong’s candidacy for Kalon Tripa during the last election.
I used word thugs intentionally based on the things they have been doing.
Insiders tell us that Kalon Dickyi Choyang’s assignment includes monitoring fellow Kalon Gyari Dolma and Kalsang Aukstang’s duty include keeping an eye on Chithue Tsokstoe’s ambition.
Ever notice Kalsang Aukastang attending all possible public talks by Chithue Tsokstoe? It is sickening when one hear the cunningness of Sikyong.
Let’s do him a favor. Keep an eye on all this action with a positive mind. It will make him act/behave as a true leader. That will be our best contribution.
If Tibetans want real checks and balances and the mechanisms to prevent being taken for granted by those on top, then we must introduce party system politics. It may be democracy to adopt and promote middleway policy,(although it is debatable whether CTA has the people’s mandate to do so), but it is clearly dictatorship to stifle the Rangzen voices. Unless and until we have a party system with a sitting opposition in the parliament, those on top will continue to act with impunity. They will release a couple of statements, respond to some comments on social media, intimidate the pathetic parliament into signing whatever they please, and then wait till the whole thing fades away from the collective memory. The current system of choice less top down democracy renders us impotent even when our most basic rights are being trampled upon by those on top. What is the use of such “Democracy”.!!!
dhasa yogi @ 90, If it is really true that the Sikyong has the kalon’s assigned to keep a tab on each other then i think those kalons are to be held accountable first and foremost for obeying such a dictum. It is difficult for me to believe that the sikyong would be this stupid and arrogant but one never knows. if it is true,sikyong should be declared insane and unfit to be the sikyong and the kalons declared as robots.
I am compelled to write a few words here as fact checking of various allegations made by Jamyang Norbu against the CTA and the current Tibetan leaders with regards to recent dismissal of Ngapo Jigme from his job at RFA. Actually I am not interested to know what and why of Ngapo’s dismissal but JN’s allegations that it was conspired by CTA headed by the Sikyong who allegedly did what he did at the …
instigation of Beijing is too far fetched. However this too does not concern me as much as it is the responsibility of CTA and Sikyong to clarify the matter as the allegation was not only coming from JN but also from a lawmaker of the United States of America. I am glad the Sikyong and the speaker of the Tibetan Parliament in exile had issued statements refuting the allegations made by the U.S. lawmaker and it’s now up to him for the next step.
What irked me most like many other Tibetans who had read Jamyang Norbu’s long article on this matter is his allegation that the adoption of CTA as the henceforth official name of the H.Q of the Tibetan establishment in exile and the recent change of Kalon Tripa to Sikyong as the official title of the head of CTA is at the urging of Beijing and part of CTA leaderships’ way of appeasing the Chinese government. Nothing could be further from the truth than this allegation and in fact it is an act of insult to His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Jamynag Norbu knows very well that His Holiness the Dalai Lama was solely responsible for making these two important and necessary changes at the time of his devolution of temporal power to the popularly elected leader of the Tibetan people through the power of ballot over a year ago. His Holiness had given ample explanations to the Tibetan people and non-Tibetan supporters of Tibet at the time. His Holiness had found it necessary to reiterate the matter again and had spoken extensively during his visit to Italy early this summer and at Ladakh during his teaching a few months back. In fact His Holiness had said that he found it necessary to speak again on these two issues because of unfounded allegations by a few Tibetans of betrayal by His Holiness. So, as a Tibetan, I would demand an unequivocal apology from Jamyang Norbu to His Holiness the Dalai Lama and henceforth never ever make this kind of mistake and stop twisting facts to suit his own convenience.
By the way I think it is important to know the reasons His Holiness has given for the two important changes I have mentioned above by Maura and other friends and supporters of Tibet. To be very brief, His Holiness had said that the sole reason for adopting the CTA was because of unequivocal rejection of the name Tibetan government in Exile by then late Prime Minister of India Mr. J. Nehru during His Holiness’s meeting with him in the summer of l959 at Massoorie in India. Mr.Nehru had vehemently rejected the idea as unacceptable by the government if India when His Holiness had revealed it to him and thus the CTA was coined.
The title of Sikyong has a very significant meaning and historical importance to us as Tibetans. The title of Sikyong dates back to the time of 5th Dalai Lama and all the subsequent Dalai Lamas leading to the current 14th Dalai Lama. The title of Sikyong (translated in English as Temporal Authority or Administrator) was given to the Regent who was appointed by the Special National Assembly of the Tibetan people called expressly to select and appoint a Sikyong during the interim period of the passing away of the Dalai lama and until the discovery and maturity of next reincarnation to take the power of both temporal and spiritual leadership of the Tibetan nation.
His Holiness the Dalai lama specifically mentioned in his speech during the inaugural of Lobsang Sangay as the newly elected Kalong Tripa of CTA that His Holiness was very pleased to confer the title and post of Sikyong to Lobsang Sangay on this very auspicious occasion as he had received it from Sikyong Takdrag Rinpoche the then Sikyong of Tibet over a six decades back. So I would like to remind my fellow Tibetans and also non-Tibetan speaking Supporters of Tibet to know the historical significance of the title Sikyong.
Wangchuk Tsering
Screaming twice does not make your argument true,you should read the article again or better ask someone else to explain to you what the author has written or what has been quoted by the author,after having a good grasp of the article then take the time to respond.
There is nothing more wasteful of your time by responding to an article you clearly have not grasped and please do not be compelled to have your same piece on two different articles,it’s a waste of our time.
We should not see everything in black & white.
I believe in middle way approach and indebted to his holiness for unifying, nurturing and leading,giving us a direction. I am a firm supporter of our Sikyon during his election, we have faith in his abilities and potential in being a game changer in Tibetan politics. He has proven to be the best leader till date. I fear he is losing touch with ground reality issues after sitting in AC room for more than a year. I wish he would spend at least 1 week in rural tibetan settlement and listen ,connect with settlement people. The Tibetan exile government has a vision and approach which all of us may not agree. That is normal human behavior and normal in a true democracy.
I also believe that we should not suppress critics and freedom of expression. By brandishing them taiwan funded, shugden follower and anti dalai lama if we do not toe the tibetan exile government official line. It has been always found that people misuse his holiness stature and force / influence stating we can’t think otherwise as it is his holiness wish. We need people who points mistakes and keep our government on toes all the time so that they do not become complacent. After all, we all are human. We have limitations. Unless there is good system/systemetic check in place how much great people are in place they are bound to succumb to lust, greed and other humane frailings.
I don’t see anything wrong in JN, he has every right to raise his voice and raise awareness on the other side. This is necessary and crucial in any democracy. As long as all the pillars of democracy are intact and firm. We are in safe hands and democracy will flourish for better. Bhod gyalo. Please avoid personal attack and I would suggest everyone to have a holistic view. We need to see and observe the other people point of view as well.
Thanks for Jamyang Norbu la,
We really need more Tibetans to be as Yamyang Norbu and Tibetan independence fighters as well in Dharamsala.
In every topic, it is nice to JN comment. But his comments are twisted and manipulating most of the folks either knowingly or unknowingly.
He is a best political opportunist. Why? For him, anything does not fit his agenda, he is headon collission with the person or organization, he does not care whether it helps or damaging to the Tibetan cause. Many people think JN is vocal supporters of democracy, in fact not. He is one of those crying wolf when HHDL devolved entire political power to Sikyong. But before, JN had written many times, both in Tibetan publication or quoted in famous international magazines, describing Tibetan democracy is under the shadow of DL because in such a situation, TGIE is just a puppet and does not have real power. When HHDL smoothly transitioned the power to TGIE, he is crying shit around, arguing the DL need to retain symbolic head of Tibetan nation. What the fuck is this idea? Isn’t the guy contradicting himself? Again, LS clearly got his nerve because his cousin kudra was defeated by LS. So, he got a personal grudge, I guess. Again, when TGIE officialled assumed its correct English Name CTA….he is again of the crying wolf that TIBETAN GOVERNMENT is shsutdown…what the fuck? There was no Tibetan Government as official at the first place since 60’s, it was CTA…only in Tibetan, we used Bhod Shung….loosely in Tibetan. What is wrong with this guy? Twisting facts and figures in order to satisfy his egos. I had a lot of respect in the beginning, as I mentioned earlier, I have a good political gig, so I used to follow who say what and what was changed, and why? As time passed on, I found out JN is creating unnecessary troubles instead of unifying. He might be good at generating a debate of no use…..what else? If one follows his writing from the beginning, his contradictions are not clear, but hidden and it clearly projects what kind of politics he plays….Most of Tibetans dont care about the background of writers or the works, they only fall either for rangzen or u-lam. One of them is enough for them to support or condemn the others……I think it is time for JN to come and be straight, there is no use to be TWISTED at end of life!
NG
མཁྱེན་ཡངས་གསེར་རྟ་ལགས།
མཚན་དངོས་སུ་བཀོད་པ་བཞིན་འུ་ཅག་གི་སྤྱི་འཐུས་གསེར་རྟ་ཚུལ་ཁྲིམས་དངོས་རང་ཡིན་ན་ཞེ་དྲག་ཡག་པོ་བྱུང་བཞག སྤྱིར་ན་འདིར་ང་ཕོད་ཁྱོད་ཕུང་ལས། དོན་གྱི་ལྟེ་བོ་ང་ཕོད་ཉིད་དང་ཨར་རླུང་གི་ལྕམ་དང་ཁོང་གི་ཕྱག་མཛོད་དང་བཀའ་ཡི་བློན་པོ་སྐལ་ལྡན་བློ་གྲོས་གསུམ་མེད་པས་ང་ཚོས་བརྒྱ་བཤད་སྟོང་བཤད་ཀྱང་ཐམས་ཅད་ཚོད་དཔག་དང་མུན་ནག་ཕྲོད་མེ་མདའ་རྒྱག་པ་ལྟ་བུ་ལས་སྒྲུབ་འབྲས་ཤིག་གསོན་རྒྱུ་མེད་པ་ཚང་མས་མཁྱེན་གསལ་རེད། སྐུ་ཉིད་ནས་ཀྱང་རང་ཉིད་དྲང་ཏོག་ཏོག་གིས་མུན་ནག་ཁྲོད་ལྡེའུ་འགའ་འཕེན་འདུག་པས་ཕོག་སར་ཇི་ལྟར་དམིགས་གཏད་བཞིན་ཕོག་ཡོད་པས་རེ་བ་ཡོད།
ཇི་ལྟར་ངའི་གོ་བ་ལོན་ཚོད་ལྟར་ན། འཇམ་ནོར་གྱིས་“ང་ཕོད་འཇིགས་མེད་བཙན་བྱོལ་བོད་གཞུང་དང་ཆབ་སྲིད་ཀྱི་ལངས་ཕྱོགས་མི་གཅིག་པ་ཞིག་ཡིན་ཚུལ་”ལས་“བཙན་བྱོལ་གཞུང་དེ་རྒྱའི་ཆབ་སྲིད་ཀྱི་བླུ་འཁྲིད་འོག་ཚུད་དང་ཚུད་བཞིན་པ་”གཙོ་བོར་བཤད་འདུག་སྙམ། གལ་ཏེ་རྩོམ་ཆ་ཚང་ཞིག་བསྐྱར་དུ་ཀློག་ཐབས་མེད་ན་ཐོག་མ་དང་མཐའ་མའི་ཡིག་ཕྲེང་གཉིས་ཡང་ལན་ཞིག་བཀླགས་པ་ཡིན་ན་གསལ་པོར་ཆགས་ངེས། དེང་གི་ཆེད་རྩོམ་མང་ཆེ་བའི་ཡང་སྙིང་གི་དོན་དེ་རྩོམ་གྱི་མགོ་འཇུག་གཉིས་ལས་རྟོག་ཐུབ། དེ་གཉིས་དབར་ཀྱི་བཤད་པ་རྣམས་ནི་ལུང་དང་། གཏན་ཚིགས། རྒྱུ་མཚན་དང་དཔེ་མཚོན་བཀོད་པ་ལས་འཆད་བྱའི་དོན་དངོས་དེ་མ་ཡིན་པས་ཆེར་བརྩི་མི་ཉེན། སྐུ་ཉིད་ནས་ཆེད་དུ་བསྔགས་ནས་ང་ཕོད་ཀྱི་རྒྱབ་ཏུ་ལྡེའུ་འགའ་འཕངས་པ་དེ་ཡང་སྙིང་རྒྱུ་མཚན་གང་ཡིན་ངས་མི་ཤེས། དེ་ལྟར་རྩོམ་བར་དུ་ང་ཕོད་བསྟོད་ནའང་། སྐད་ལྡན་ཉེས་ནའང་། ཟམ་གདོང་འགག་ནའང་། རྒྱ་རི་བརྒྱལ་ནའང་། འུ་ཅག་མི་མང་ལ་ཁྱད་མིན་འདུག འུ་ཅག་ལ་རང་གི་སྨྲ་བརྗོད་ཀྱི་སྟེགས་བུ་དེ་བཙན་རྒྱའི་དབང་ཤུགས་དང་དབུ་བསྐོར་ནང་མ་ཚུད་པ་བྱ་རྒྱུ་དེ་གཙོ་བོ་རེད།
༼མ་གཞི་ནས་ཁྱེད་ནས་ཁྱེད་ཀྱི་བང་ཆེན་དང་འདས་པོ་མང་གཙོ་ཚགས་པར་གཉིས་ཀྱི་བར་མཚུངས་བསྡུར་བྱེད་པ་དེ་དྲང་བདེན་ཡིན་མིན་ཁྱེད་ནས་བསྐྱར་དུ་ཁོ་ཐག་ཆོད་རོགས། དྲང་པོར་ཞུས་ན་ད་བར་ངས་བང་ཆེན་བཀླགས་མ་མྱོང་བས་དེ་ལྟ་རང་གཅིག་བལྟ་འགྲོ༽
ཐོས་པ་དགའ།
Clarification from Representative Lobsang Nyandak
Office of Tibet, NY
November 30, 2012
Mr. Jamyang Norbu’s article “Free Radio Free Asia” dated November 22, 2012, and his subsequent piece “CTA Joins Free RFA Debate” contain inaccurate information which is misleading our community and supporters alike.
In the piece dated November 22, Mr. Norbu wrote, “It also appears that in June of this year Lobsang Sangay, Libby Liu and Lobsang Nyandak, the representative of the Dalai Lama in New York, met in London and had discussions about the need to restructure RFA’s Tibetan service and to replace Jigme Ngabo.” In the second one he corrected himself, “I rechecked my notes and came across the actual month and exact date, plus additional information. On October 23, 2012 His Holiness was in London and participating in an event organized by Legatum Institute. On the sidelines of this event the meeting between the Sikyong Lobsang Sangay, Representative Lobsang Nyandak and Ms. Libby Liu took place.”
I have had no discussions with Ms. Liu about Mr. Ngabo Jigme in London or anywhere else; in fact since becoming Representative four years ago, I have never even been in London. As for Sikyong Lobsang Sangay, he did not fly to London to meet Ms. Liu as Mr. Norbu claimed. Sikyong was in London at the time to attend a Symposium on Ethics for a More Prosperous World, at which Ms. Liu was also present.
During Sikyong’s visit to Washington DC in July 2012, I did accompany him to a meeting with representatives from the BBG. That meeting was a courtesy call. Not only was Ms. Liu not present at this meeting, but there was no discussion of RFA personnel.
Mr. Jamyang Norbu also wrote that I was in DC “a few days after Jigme Ngabo’s dismissal…to thwart any effort by RFA staff to organize support for Jigme’s reinstatement.” My visit to DC on November 5, 2012, to brief senior officials from the US State Department, including the Special Coordinator for Tibetan Affairs as well as White House staff on the dismal situation in Tibet, was confirmed many weeks in advance. It was a coincidence that Mr. Jigme was abruptly dismissed on the same day. Because of unfounded rumors circulating of CTA’s involvement, I met with RFA staff in the evening to categorically state that CTA has no involvement with Mr. Jigme’s involuntary resignation or dismissal. As a representative of His Holiness the Dalai Lama and of the CTA, it is my duty to clarify misunderstanding and correct misinformation about the CTA.
Sikyong Lobsang Sangay has already stated that CTA has no involvement in the resignation of Mr. Ngabo Jigme from RFA. His statement of November 21, 2012, said, “Allegations of interference on personnel matter are completely baseless.” However, Mr. Norbu has continued in his efforts to paint a dark picture of CTA leadership as being engaged in a conspiracy to stifle voices of people who advocate independence and prevent freedom of speech within the Tibetan community.
The CTA leadership, along with the Tibetan people, is invested in the integrity, honesty and independence of Tibetan media.
Hi Jamyang Norbu
do not let see you. otherwise i will be out of my control to hit as much as i can.
.. some random thoughts.
Let’s first set right what freedom of speech means. It’s not just about right to speak but also about taking responsibility in things you say. So rights and responsibilities. Let’s not indulge in baseless accusations and defamations.
Mangtso newspaper published its last edition in March 1996, not 2001 as JN had said. JN was one of the editors but had been going back and forth to US to be with his family during its publication. If the Dalai Lama’s call led to its closure, it must had come as a good timing for JN as then he could move to the US, which he did not long time after.
JN’s association with kudrak started only in recent times. His father was the famous Lhawang la, who owned Bellevue Hotel at Chowrasta in Darjeeling. He was not a Tibetan. I don’t know exactly about his mother, but that’s the side of his link with kudrak. So I will not assume or pretend like I know, like JN, but the the contender who lost to Lobsang Sangay, Tenzing Namgyal Tethong, is JN’s cousin. Remember how JN portrayed LS in such unbelievable negative light to push Tethong. *
And since Ngabo Jigme has kudrak background, add to that his own ouster from RFA, JN made all possible speculation to discredit LS and his colleagues. So it becomes all clear what kind of debate JN is trying to generate. **
I am saying * and ** for you to judge which way wind will blow when JN writes.
People in Tibet proudly display photos of the Dalai Lama, Samdhong Rinpoche and Lobsang Sangay. *** Songs were sung in praise of the Dalai Lama and Lobsang Sangay, putting the singer’s own lives at risk. It clearly shows Dalai Lama and Sangay has the popular support of Tibetans both inside and outside. That implicitly shows their support in their ideas (read umey-lam). JN is only bad mouthing and spreading discord (intentionally or unintentionally) within the Tibetan society (both inside and outside).
JN’s writings being used by Chinese publications are not something to feel proud of. It’s time to reflect on those and check the purpose and who’s benefiting. It’s not about how your and few other’s (read a small minority) whims and fancies are not fulfilled. Tibetan cause is about how the majority of the Tibetans would like to see it resolved. Aren’t you using the word democracy (and writing these assuming essays), if so then don’t we know that in a democracy, majority prevails? But of course I am not saying that you cannot express your views. Do that but again, those should be on the basis of truth and in the spirit of how majority prevails.
I don’t feel the removal of Ngabo Jigme such a big deal. Although I feel that reason should be given for his removal. And also didn’t like that he has been dismissed in such a humiliating manner. After all he has served the service for 16 years and have contributed to its success.
However, he has been serving there on contract basis and if he had read the contract well, he would probably understand how and when the contract could be terminated. It’s also probably time to pass the baton on to someone else. But not to be led by people like good-for-nothing type such as Kalden Lodoe. If I digress, some VOA newscasters also need to go. They are just bit too old (and doesn’t have the right newscaster personality) to be there.
Congressman Rohrabacher’s letter was uncalled for, particularly the one to Sikyong. The way he has presented the issue of self-immolation is totally lie and misleading. He shouldn’t use such a sensitive issue to endorse his personal views and agendas. What Tibetans want will be decided by the Tibetans. If he cannot support what the majority of Tibetans want, he can leave the Tibetan cause to the Tibetan people. And since the majority of the Tibetans support the middle-way he should either support it or else can leave the Tibetan cause with the Tibetan people. What the majority of the Tibetans want is all clear, particularly those in Tibet, as I have mentioned above ***. But of course I have seen some people in Tibet saying Rangzen. That’s all right, but again how many of them? Very few.
In the same vein, JN should also understand these facts and don’t distort and mislead the public particularly the ones who are new comers in the Tibetan world.
Like JN liked CTA replying and clarifying the doubts (or rumors if you like), we also would like clarification and answers from you to many of the points and questions asked in many of the posts. You just say what you want (and expect reply from CTA), and not clarify or answer is not sitting well as then the debate (you would like) only goes half way.
And now that both Sikyong and Lobsang Nyandak had spoken out giving full clarification and that LN even had not gone to London all these years, shouldn’t JN apologise for all these lies and defamation.
My sources in Tibetan government say that there is lot more people involved in firing of Jigme Ngabo and subsequent power grab. They say:
” the worldwide search” for new Director will end with either Tseten Samdup or Kalsang Gyalsten, former Geneva Envoy”
Tseten Samdup is currently Swiss Representative, but more importantly, he is younger brother of Private secretary Chhime Rinzin, one unnamed key player in this dirty game.
( Tube-lights in Tibetan communities should first ask: how in the world Tseten Samdup became a Dhonchoe in the first place? How come all these plum posting goes only to people who have powerful connection while many good people of CTA get struck right down there, where they began? That is aside.)
Sources tell me that Chhime Rinzin is trying to get his journalist brother as Tibetan Service Director. Chhime Rinzin is said to be trying to influence RFA president through Kalden Lodoe. Sikyong is promoting his own candidate.
Sources say if they have their way, they will compromise on some one who will initiate self-censorship of RFA broadcast but also undermine Lodoe Gyari.
We all know Lodoe Gyari is no friend of RFA Tibetan service. But I am just relaying you all the information my sources throws at me.
Keep watching as plot thickens, your and mine tsampa will taste better.
Very easy for u to sit in ur comfortable apartment in newyork n preach us,why don’t u go to Dhasa n work at the CTA ,if u really think there is a lot of problems n lies inside CTA ,why don’t u try n change it,or how about self immolating urself in front of the UN building .
I would like to say something about Ngaba Jigme la. To be honest, he worked at the RFA for sixteen years as he chief, but he never ever been Dharamsala in the past sixteen year. It shows to me that how much he had connected with Central Tibetan Administration and care about Tibetan issue!!! The other hand, Ngaba la, used to go to China and Hon Gong for the job!!! so my understand that RFA establish for Tibetans inside Tibet. Jigme la has to go and connected with Central Tibetan Administration rather than go to china.
Let me be the last one to post here.
We must understand that the real question is not about who was fired but rather how and why Ngabo was fired.
The circumstantial evidence that we have can tell us that CTA top official’s dirty hands are there in firing RFA’s Director.
One side charges and other side denies the charges–
One side thinks it’s an attmpt to stifle the rangzen voices given contract termination of Rangzen advocate and other denies it.
There is only one way going out of this mess: that is to have an independent high-level investigation and let them make the conclusion. Guilty should be brought to justice.
Lastly, we should make sure RFA is really free of politics and influence from anybody let alone CTA. In other words, they should give equal excess for the rangzen advocates to voice their opinion.
4 Tibetan Parliament: please stop being childish. You don’t have to side with anybody at so early. Least you can do is to investigate and then calm the situation. When you get so defensive to the charges congressman brought against Sikyong, people will wonder why chithus has to answer as if they knew everything about CTA official’s conduct. Chithus responsibilities lies with the lagislation and scrutiny of the executive. HOw do you know that funds aren’t misspent during the last chithus meeting and today? I am not saying there is but you got to act smart. You don’t have to gang up with Sikyong.
What you could have wrote to the congressman, if at all deemed necessary, could have been something like this:
“Thanks for sharing your concern. We’ll launch a high level investigation regarding this allegation. Chithus and the Audit dept are always working hard to make sure the funds we recieved are not misspent and the records will be submitted upon request. Thank you for your continued support.”
I think more damages is being done by the chithus letter. I will be happy if i am worng on this.
Always,
AGU
༄། ངེས་པར་དུ་ཀློག་དགོས་པས་སྐབས་བབ་ཀྱི་དོན་རྐྱེན་འགའ། །
སྤྱིར་བཏང་རང་ཉིད་མི་རིགས་གང་ཞིག་ཡིན་པ་དང་རྒྱལ་ཁབ་གང་དུ་གནས་བཅའ་ཞིང་སྡོད་པ་ཡིན་ན་མི་རིགས་དེ་དང་རྒྱལ་ཁབ་དེའི་སྒྲིག་ལམ་སྲུང་བ་དང་ལ་རྒྱ་འཛིན་དགོས་པ་དེ་ནི་ཕྱིར་སྨྲ་ཤེས་དོན་གོ་བའི་མི་བཟང་པོ་ཞིག་གི་མཚན་ཉིད་རེད། འདི་ནས་ཡར་འཇལ་བའི་ལོ་ངོ་མང་ཙམ་གྱི་སྔོན་ཞིག་ལ་ཕྲན་རྒྱ་ནག་དམར་པོའི་དྲག་གནོན་གྱི་སྲིད་ཇུས་དང་རྒྱ་གར་དང་བལ་བོ་སོགས་ཀྱི་ཁྲིམས་ལུགས་མེད་པས་རྒྱ་སྒོ་དུ་མ་ཞིག་བརྒྱུད་ནས་འགྲོ་བ་མི་ཡི་ཞིང་ཁམས་ལྟ་བུའི་ཨ་རི་དམངས་གཙོའི་ལུང་པ་ལ་འབྱོར། དེ་དུས་འཇོར་ལྗི་བྷི་ཤི་མཆོག་ཨ་རིའི་སྲིད་འཛིན་ཐེངས་མ་དང་པོའི་སྐབས་རེད། ཀ་ལི་ཧྥོར་ཉ་ཡ་མངའ་སྡེ་དང་ནེའུ་ཡོག་ད་དུང་བཱིར་མན་ཏཱ་སོགས་མངའ་སྡེ་མང་པོ་ཞིག་ནང་ཁོང་ལ་ངོ་རྒོལ་ཤུགས་ཆེན་བྱེད་བཞིན་འདུག་པས་ངའི་སེམས་ལ་ཚོར་སྣང་མ་འདྲ་གཉིས་བྱུང་། དང་པོ་མཐོང་མ་ཐག་སེམས་ལ་སྐྲག་སྣང་ཞིག་སྐྱེས་བྱུང་། དེ་ནི་ཁྲིམས་མེད་ལུགས་མེད་ཀྱི་ལུང་པ་དུ་མ་ཞིག་བརྒྱུད་ནས་གསར་དུ་འབྱོར་བའི་རྟགས་མཚན་རེད། གཉིས་པ་སེམས་ལ་བརྗོད་མི་ཤེས་པའི་དགའ་སྣང་དང་ཡི་རངས་ཤིག་སྐྱེས་བྱུང་། དེ་ནི་སྟོབས་ཆེན་རྒྱལ་ཁབ་དེའི་དམངས་གཙོའི་རང་དབང་ཟེར་བ་དེ་ང་ལ་དངོས་སུ་ངོ་སྤྲོད་བྱས་པས་ཡིན། དེ་དུས་ངས་མིག་གཉིས་མཆི་མས་བརྣངས་བཞིན་སྨོན་ལམ་ཞིག་བརྒྱབ་པ་ཡིན། མི་རིང་བར་བོད་གངས་ཅན་གྱི་ལུང་པ་དེ་རྒྱ་ནག་པོའི་ལག་འོག་ནས་ཐར་ཏེ་བོད་རང་དབང་རང་བདག་གཙང་མ་ཞིག་ཐོབ་ནས། བོད་མི་རེ་རེ་ལ་ཨ་རི་ལྟ་བུའི་དམངས་གཙོའི་རང་དབང་གི་བདེ་སྐྱིད་ཀྱི་ཉི་མ་ཞིག་འཆར་ཐུབ་པར་ཤོག་ཅེས་ལབ་པ་ཡིན།
ཟླ་འདིའི་ནང་ཨེ་རླུང་ལ་རྙོག་དྲ་ཅིག་བྱུང་བ་དེས་རྐྱེན་བྱས་ནས་ཨ་རིའི་གྲོས་ཚོགས་ཀྱི་ཚོགས་མི་ཞིག་གིས་རྡ་ས་ལ་གལ་གནད་ཅན་གྱི་ཉེན་བརྡའི་ཡི་གེ་ཞིག་བཏང་བ་དེའི་ནང་ལ་བོད་གཞུང་གིས་ལས་ཀ་ལ་འདོད་བློ་མ་ཁེངས་པས་ཟོལ་ཆེན་པོ་ཞིག་བསྟན་བྱུང་། དེ་ནི་རྣམ་རྒྱལ་གྲྭ་ཚང་གི་གྲྭ་ཟུར་སྐལ་ལྡན་བློ་གྲོས་ཀྱིས་སྣེ་ཁྲིད་ཞིང་རྡ་ས་ལ་ངན་འབྲེལ་བྱས་ཏེ་བྱུང་བས་སྐྱུག་བྲོ་བས་ལོ་རྒྱུས་ཤིག་རེད། གཞིས་ལུས་བོད་མི་ཆོལ་ཁ་གསུམ་གྱིས་སྤུན་ཟླ་ཚོའི་བོད་གཞིས་བྱེས་གཉིས་ཀྱིས་ལོ་ངོ་དྲུག་ཅུ་ལྷག་གི་རིང་ལ་དཀའ་ངལ་དུ་མའི་ཁྲོད་འབད་རྩོད་བྱས་ཤིང་། མ་འོངས་པར་བོད་རང་དབང་རང་བཙན་གི་བདེ་སྐྱིད་ཀྱི་ཉི་མ་དེ་མ་ཤར་བར་བློས་གཏོང་བྱེད་མི་ཐུབ་པས་བོད་དོན་འཐབ་རྩོད་དེ་ཕྲག་ལ་བླངས་ཤིང་། བློ་ཐག་ཁེར་གཅོད་ཀྱིས་སྐུ་ལུས་དམར་པོའི་མེ་ལ་བསྲེགས་ནས་ཛ་དྲག་པའི་སྐབས་འདིར། གྲྭ་ཟུར་སྐལ་བློ་རྡ་སའི་སྒྲིག་འཛུགས་ཚོགས་པ་དང་ངན་འབྲེལ་བྱས་ནས་ཨེ་རླུང་གི་དོན་རྐྱེན་བྱུང་བ་ལ་བོད་རིགས་གཅིག་པོ་མིན་པར་ཨ་རིའི་བོད་དོན་རོགས་སྐྱོར་མཁན་དང་རང་བཙན་འཐབ་རྩོད་པ་མང་པོ་ཞིག་བློ་ཕམ་ཆེན་པོ་བྱུང་འདུག །བོད་མི་རིགས་ལ་མཚོན་ན། ཕ་ཤི་བའི་སྒང་ལ་རོ་ཐོག་རྟ་རྒྱུག་དང་། རྒྱུ་བརླག་པའི་སྒང་ལ་ཀི་འབོད་ཧ་དགོད་ཟེར་བ་ནང་བཞིན་ད་ལྟ་བོད་ནང་ནས་གཞིས་བཞུགས་སྤུན་ཟླ་༨༠ ལྷག་གྱིས་སྐུ་ལུས་མེ་ལ་བསྲེགས་པས་མ་ཚད་དེ་ལ་མྱ་ངན་དང་ཐ་ན་སྨོན་ལམ་ཞུས་མཁན་སོགས་ལའང་མནར་གཅོད་དང་ཁྲིམས་སྦྱོར་གྱིས་སྡུག་བསྔལ་མི་ཡི་སྤྱོད་ཡུལ་ལས་འདས་པ་དག་མྱང་དང་མྱོང་བཞིན་པའི་སྐབས་འདིར། རྡ་སས་སྒྲིག་འཛུགས་ཚོགས་པས་བོད་ནང་གྱི་གནས་སྟངས་ལ་ཐབས་རྒྱ་ཇུས་སྟོང་གིས་གྲོས་གཞི་འདི་རེད་དང་དེ་ཡིན་ཟེར་བ་ཞིག་མེད་པར་གྲི་སོ་རྣོན་པོ་ནང་ལ་བསྐོར་ནས་སྡང་དགྲ་བོའི་མདུན་དུ་ནང་དཀྲུག་ཁྲག་དྲི་བྲོ་བ་ཞིག་བྱེད་ཐབས་སྤྱད་པ་དེ་ནི་བློ་ཡུལ་ལས་འདས་པ་ཞིག་རེད་སྙམ། མ་གཞི་སྐལ་ལྡན་བློ་གྲོས་ཁོང་བོད་མི་ཞིག་ཡིན་པས་འདུ་ཤེས་རྩ་བ་ནས་བྲལ་ཏེ་ཨེ་རླུང་གི་འགོ་འཛིན་རྒྱ་མོ་དང་ལྐོག་འབྲེལ་ཐོག་ནས་རྒྱ་མིའི་གཞུང་དངུལ་ལ་ལག་པ་འཆང་གི་ཡོོད་ཚུལ་ཡང་བཤད་མཁན་འདུག་མོད། ཁུངས་སྐྱེལ་དག་མ་ཞིག་མེད་པས་འདིར་བཤད་འདོད་དེ་ཙམ་མེད་ཀྱང་༢༠༡༡ ལོར་ཝ་ཤིན་ཊོན་དུ་དུས་འཁོར་དབང་ཆེན་གསུངས་སྐབས། བོད་ཀྱི་གཞོན་ནུ་ལྷན་ཚོགས་ཀྱི་དཔལ་འབྱོར་འདུ་འགོད་ཆེད་གཅིག་པོར་མིན་པར་རྒྱལ་སྤྱིའི་མི་སྣ་ཁག་ལ་བོད་དོན་ཁྱབ་བསྒྲགས་དང་ཤེས་རྟོགས་ཆེད། ཚོགས་གཙོ་ཚེ་དབང་རིག་འཛིན་གྱིས་ཟླ་དེའི་ཚེས་༡༣་ལ་བོད་རང་དབང་རང་བཙན་དང་འབྲེལ་བའི་རི་མོ་ཡོད་པའི་སྟོད་གོས་སོགས་བཙོང་བཞིན་པའི་སྐབས། དུས་དབང་གོ་སྒྲིག་ཚོགས་ཆུང་གི་ཚོགས་གཙོ་སྐལ་ལྡན་བློ་གྲོས་ཀྱིས་ཚོང་རྫས་ཀྱི་སྟོད་གོས་ཐོག་བོད་རང་བཙན་དང་བཙན་བྱོལ་བོད་གཞུང་ཞེས་འཁོད་འདུག་པས། དེར་ཆབ་སྲིད་ཀྱི་ཤུགས་རྐྱེན་ཆེ་སྐོར་བརྗོད་དེ་ཚོང་རྫས་ཕྱིར་བསྡུ་དགོས་སྐོར་བརྗོད་འདུག །དེ་ལ་ཚོགས་གཙོ་ཚེ་དབང་རིག་འཛིན་གྱིས་ཁྱེད་རང་སྒེར་གྱི་ཐག་གཅོད་རེད་དང་། དུས་དབང་གོ་སྒྲིག་ཚོགས་ཆུང་གི་ཐག་གཅོད་རེད་ཅེས་དྲིས་སྐབས། དང་པོ་སྐལ་ལྡན་བློ་གྲོས་ཀྱིས་ང་སྒེར་གྱི་ཐག་གཅོད་ཡིན་སྐོར་བརྗོད་འདུག་ཀྱང་རིམ་བཞིན་མི་མང་པོ་འཛོམས་ཡོང་ཚེ། སྐལ་ལྡན་བློ་གྲོས་ཀྱིས་ཚོགས་ཆུང་གི་ཐག་གཅོད་ཡིན་ཞེས་བཤད་ཏེ་མཐར་ཉེན་སྲུང་པ་སྐད་བཏང་ནས་བཅའ་ལག་བསྡུ་གསོག་རྒྱག་ལོང་མེད་པར་ཚོང་རྭ་ནས་ཕྱིར་འབུད་བཏང་བ་དེས་ཁོ་ལ་ཏན་ཏན་གསང་བ་ཆེན་པོ་ཞིག་དང་ངན་འབྲེལ་རྒྱབ་རྟེན་ཞིག་ཡོད་པ་གསལ་བོར་བསྟན་པ་རེད། དེ་མིན་བོད་རང་བཙན་གྱི་རི་མོ་ཞིག་ལ་ཕ་བསད་ཀྱི་དགྲ་མཐོང་བ་ནང་བཞིན་བྱེད་དགོས་དོན་རྩ་བ་ནས་མེད། ༧གོང་ས་མཆོག་གིས་བོད་རང་བཙན་གྱི་རི་མོ་ཡོད་ན་ངའི་དུས་འཁོར་དབང་ཆེན་གྱི་ཚོང་ཁྲོམ་རྭ་བར་ཡོང་མི་ཆོག་ཅེས་དུས་ནམ་ཡང་གསུང་མྱོང་མེད་ལ་དུས་དབང་ཚོགས་ཆུང་གི་སྒྲིག་ཁྲིམས་དེ་འདྲ་ཞིག་བཟོས་མེད་ཟེར།
ད་དུང་རྒྱལ་ས་ཝ་ཤིན་ཊོན་དུ་བོད་རིགས་སྤྱི་མཐུན་ཚོགས་པའི་ཚོགས་དངུལ་དང་དུས་འཁོར་དབང་ཆེན་སྐབས་སུ་བྱུང་བའི་ཞལ་འདེབས་སོགས་ལས་གནས་བརྩིས་སྤྲོད་མ་བྱས་པར་ལོ་གཅིག་ཙམ་རིང་ཁོ་རང་གིས་བདག་བཟུང་བྱས་པ་དང་རྗེས་ནས་རྩིས་སྤྲོད་ཡང་དག་པ་ཞིག་ཡང་བྱས་མེད་རབས་འདུག །དུས་དབང་ཚར་རྗེས་སུ་ས་གནས་དེ་ཀའི་ཕ་ལམ་ཚོང་ཁང་ཞིག་གིས་བོད་པ་སྐྱེས་དམན་ཞིག་གིས་རིན་གོང་མཐོ་བའི་ཕ་ལམ་ཞིག་ཉོས་པ་དེ་བོད་པ་དེ་འདྲ་ཉོ་མཁན་གཅིག་ཀྱང་བྱུང་མ་སོང་ཟེར་ནས་བསྔགས་པ་བརྗོད་འདུག་པ་སྐལ་ལྡན་བློ་གྲོས་ཀྱི་སྐྱེས་དམན་རེད་འདུག་ཟེར། དེ་མིན་ཨེ་རླུང་ནང་གི་སྒྲིག་ལམ་ལ་གཏོར་བཤིག་དང་འགོ་བ་རྒྱ་མོ་དེ་དང་ངན་འབྲེལ་བྱས་ནས་ཨེ་རླུང་བོད་ཀྱི་སྡེ་ཚན་འགོ་འཛིན་ང་ཕོད་འཇིགས་མེད་ཀྱི་བཀའ་ལ་མ་བརྩིས་རབས་མང་པོ་འདུག་ཀྱང་དེ་ཚོ་སྐབས་འདིར་སློང་དགོས་དེ་ཙམ་མི་འདུག །༢༠༡༠ ལོར་ཐེ་ཝན་ནས་བོད་ཀྱི་ཤེས་ཡོན་ཐེབས་རྩ་ཚོགས་པ་འཛུག་གི་ཡིན་ཟེར་ནས་ཞལ་འདེབས་མང་པོ་ཞིག་བསྡུས་རབས་ཡང་འདུག་ལ་དེ་ཡང་ཧ་གོ་དགོས་པ་ཞིག་རེད། དེ་མིན་ཕན་ཚུན་གཟའ་གཉིས་བར་ལ་གཟའ་དཀྲུག་ཕུད་པ་སོགས་སྐྱུག་ལོག་པ་མང་པོ་ཞིག་འདིར་བཀོད་མེད།
བཀའ་ཟུར་ཟམ་གདོང་རིན་པོ་ཆེའི་སྐབས་ནས་བཟུང་རྡ་སའི་བོད་གཞུང་གིས་རྒྱལ་ས་ཝ་ཤིན་ཊོན་གྱི་ཨེ་རླུང་ལ་ལག་པ་བརྐྱངས་ཏེ་བོད་གཞུང་གིས་ངག་བཀོད་ལྟར་བྱེད་དགོས་ཞེས་དབང་བསྒྱུར་འགོ་བརྩམས། ཡིན་ནའང་སྐབས་དེ་དུས་ང་ཕོད་འཇིགས་མེད་ཀྱིས་རྡ་སས་བཀས་བཀོད་རྒྱུན་འཛིན་གྱི་གནོད་ཤུགས་ལ་ངོས་ལེན་ཞུས་མེད་པ་མ་ཟད་དྲང་བདེན་དང་གནས་ཚུལ་གཙོ་བོར་འདོན་པའི་སྲིད་ཇུས་ཀྱི་ལམ་ནས་འགུལ་བསྐྱོད་གཏོང་མ་ཐུབ་པ་ཡིན་ནའང་། དེས་རྐྱེན་གྱིས་ཟམ་གདོང་བླ་མས་བོད་གཞུང་ལས་བྱེད་སུ་གང་གིས་ཨེ་རླུང་ནས་གཏམ་བཤད་དང་བཅར་འདྲི་ལེན་མི་ཆོག་ཅེས་བཀས་བཅད་བགོས་པ་རེད། ཡིན་ནའང་ཐབས་ཤེས་གཞན་པ་ཞིག་བཀོལ་བ་དེ་ནི་ཨེ་རླུང་སྤྱི་ཁྱབ་གཙོ་འཛིན་པ་རྒྱ་མོ་ལེ་བྷེ་ལོའུ་དང་ངན་འབྲེལ་བྱེད་པ་འགོ་བཙུགས་པ་དང་དེ་ལ་མཐུན་རྐྱེན་གང་དགོས་སྐལ་ལྡན་བློ་གྲོས་ཀྱིས་བསྒྲུབ་པ་རེད་ཟེར། སྐལ་བློ་དང་རྒྱ་མོ་གཉིས་ལ་མཛའ་བརྩེའི་ལྐོག་འབྲེལ་དང་གཡོ་རྒྱུས་ཚོང་འབྲེལ་སོགས་མང་པོ་ཞིག་ཡོད་པ་སོགས་འབྲེལ་ཡོད་མི་སྣ་མང་པོས་བཤད། གང་ལྟར་ན་ནིང་ལོར་སྐལ་བློས་རྒྱ་མོ་རྡ་སར་གཞུང་འབྲེལ་ཐོག་ནས་ཁྲིད་ཏེ་རྡ་སའི་སྲིད་འཛིན་དང་གཙོ་སྐྱོང་བ་སོགས་མང་པོ་ཞིག་ལ་བཅར་བ་དང་གསང་བས་གྲོས་བསྡུར་བྱས་ཤིང་། རྡ་སས་སྐལ་བློ་ཨེ་རླུང་ནང་རྒྱུག་ཁྱིར་བཀོལ་ཞིང་ཕུ་དཀྲུག་མདའ་དཀྲུག་བྱས་ཏེ་ང་ཕོད་ཡུལ་ཕུད་ནས་ཨེ་རླུང་བོད་ཀྱི་སྡེ་ཚན་ནང་བོད་རང་བཙན་གྱི་སྐད་ཆ་གཏན་ནས་དྲི་མི་བྲོ་བའི་ཞིང་ཁམས་ཤིག་ཏུ་བསྒྱུར་རྒྱུས་ལས་འགུལ་སྤེལ། དེ་རྗེས་ཀ་ལི་ཧྥོར་ཉ་དང་ལོན་ཌོན་ནས་ཡང་སྐལ་བློས་རྒྱ་མོ་ཁྲིད་ནས་སྲིད་སྐྱོང་དང་འགོ་གཙོ་རྣམས་དང་མཉམ་དུ་ཨེ་རླུང་སྐོར་གྲོས་བསྡུར་དང་ང་ཕོད་ཀྱི་ཚབ་ལ་སུ་བརྐོ་དགོས་སོགས་ད་ལྟའི་བོད་ཀྱི་གནས་ལས་བརྒྱ་འགྱུར་སྟོང་འགྱུར་གྱིས་ཛ་དྲག་ངང་འབད་བརྩོན་ཧུར་ཐོག་བྱས། རྒྱ་མོ་ལོན་ཌོན་ནས་ཚུར་སླེབས་དུས་ང་ཕོད་ལ་རྒྱུ་མཚན་ཅི་ཡང་མེད་པར་ལས་གནས་ནས་རྒན་ཡོལ་ལ་ཕེབས་པའམ་རྩ་དགོངས་ཞུ་དགོས་ཡོད་ལབ་པ་དང་གལ་ཏེ་རང་གིས་རྩ་དགོངས་ཞུ་བའི་ཡི་གེ་མ་འབྱོར་ན་མོ་རང་གིས་ཁོའི་ངོ་ཚབ་བྱས་ནས་ཡི་གེ་འབྲི་ཆོག་ཅེས་འཇིགས་བསྐུལ་དང་བཅས་དྲག་གནོན་གཏམ་བཤད་བྱས། ང་ཕོད་ཀྱིས་མི་འདོད་རུང་ཐབས་ཤེས་ཟད་ནས་ལེགས་སོ་ཞུས་འདུག །དེ་དུས་རྡ་སའི་ཚོགས་གཙོ་སྤེན་པ་ཚེ་རིང་ཝ་ཤིན་ཊོན་ན་ཡོད་པ་ཁོང་གི་རྨ་བྱའི་དབྱར་རྔས་སྒྲ་བཞིན་ང་ཕོད་ལ་ལོ་ངོ་བཅུ་དྲུག་རིང་ལ་ཨེ་རླུང་ཞབས་ཞུ་ཞུས་པར་ཐུགས་རྗེ་ཞེས་ར་རོ་ལྟར་གྱུར་པའི་ཆང་བཟི་མ་སྤེན་པ་ཚེ་རིང་གིས་ཁ་ནས་རང་དབང་མེད་པར་ཚིག་ཅིག་ཤོར་བས་དེར་ཡོད་ལས་སྣེ་བ་ཁ་ཤས་ཤིག་གི་ཐོས་ཏེ། ང་ཕོད་ལ་རྒྱུ་མཚན་དྲིས་ཤིང་གནས་ཚུལ་རྟོགས་རྗེས་ལས་ཀ་བ་ཚང་མ་ང་ཕོད་ཀྱི་རྒྱབ་རྩར་ལོངས་ཤིང་ངོ་ཆེན་ཞུ་བས་ཡི་གེ་ས་རྟགས་དང་བཅས་པ་རེ་ཕུལ་བས་གཏམ་དེ་རླུང་ལ་ཞོན་ནས་ཤར་ཕྱོགས་པེ་ཅིང་ན་བཞུགས་པའི་འོད་ཟེར་ལ་ཕོག །ཚོགས་གཙོ་མཆོག་དེ་ནས་ཚུར་ནེའུ་ཡོག་ལ་གསེར་གྱི་གཟེངས་རྟགས་དུས་ཆེན་ཐོག་གཏམ་བཤད་ལ་ཕེབས་དུས་བློ་བཟང་སྙན་གྲགས་དང་བོད་རིགས་སྤྱི་མཐུན་ཚོགས་མི་རྣམས་གནམ་ཐང་དུ་ཕེབས་བསུ་ཞུ་རུ་བཅར་སྐབས་ཚོགས་གཙོ་ར་བཟི་ནས་གཏོར་མ་ལྟར་གྱུར་འདུག་པ་མ་ཟད་ཞོགས་ཇ་མཉམ་ཟ་བྱེད་སར་ཆབ་གཙང་ནང་ཆུ་ཚོད་ཕྱེད་ཀ་ལྷག་ཙམ་ལ་གདོང་ལ་ཆུ་ཆབ་གཏོར་ནས་ར་དྭངས་བས་ཐབས་ཤེས་བཏང་དགོས་བྱུང་སོང་ཟེར། ༡༡/༠༥/༡༢ ལ་ནེའུ་ཡོག་སྐུ་ངོ་བློ་བཟང་སྙན་གྲགས་ཝ་ཤིན་ཊོན་ལ་མདུར་རྒྱུག་བྱས། ཨེ་རླུང་གི་ལས་ཀ་བ་ཚང་མར་རྒྱ་རིའི་རྒྱལ་སྤྱི་བོད་དོན་ཚོགས་པའི་ལས་ཁང་ནང་ལ་མངག་འགུག་བྱས་ཤིང་ང་ཕོད་གནས་དབྱུང་བཏང་བ་ལ་བོད་གཞུང་གི་ངོས་ནས་ངོས་ལེན་ཡོད་པ་མ་ཟད་ལས་ཀ་བ་ཚོས་ཁོ་ལ་རྒྱབ་སྐྱོར་བྱེད་མི་ཆོག་པས་བརྡ་གསལ་བོར་བསྟན།
དེ་རྗེས་ཨ་རིའི་གྲོས་ཚོགས་ནས་རྡ་ས་ལ་ཉེན་བརྡ་སྤྲད་དུས་སྲིད་སྐྱོང་མཆོག་གིས་ངའི་སྒྲིག་འཛུགས་ཚོགས་པ་དང་ང་ལ་གནས་སྟངས་འདིའི་ཐད་ལ་འབྲེལ་བ་རྩ་བ་ནས་མེད་ཅེས་བང་ཆེན་གྱི་ཡིག་གེས་གསར་བསྒྲགས་ཤིག་འཕྲལ་དུ་སྤེལ། དེ་དང་ཆབ་ཅིག་ཨ་རིའི་ས་གནས་བོད་རིགས་སྤྱི་མཐུན་ཚོགས་པ་མང་ཆེ་བས་ཡང་སྲིད་སྐྱོང་དང་རྡ་སར་དཀར་ཕུད་ཀྱིས་རྒྱབ་ནོན་ཡི་གེ་རེ་མུན་ནག་མདའ་འཕངས་ལྟར་བྱས་ནས་བྲིས། དེ་ནི་བོད་གླེན་པའི་མི་རིགས་ཀྱི་ཞེན་ཁག་དང་རང་སྐྱོན་རང་འགེབས་ཀྱིས་ཀུན་སློང་མཁྲེག་པོ་ཞིག་ལས་གཞན་ཨ་རི་ལྟ་བུའི་དོན་གྱི་དམངས་གཙོའི་རང་དབང་སྤྱོད་མཁན་གྱི་མི་རིགས་ཀྱི་ལས་ཀ་ཞིག་ལ་ཕྱོགས་ཙམ་ཡང་མི་ཉེ། མི་ཉུང་བས་གནས་ཚུལ་དང་ལོ་རྒྱུས་གང་མང་ཞིག་གིས་ང་ཚོ་སྟེ་བོད་མི་རིགས་ལ་སློབ་སྦྱོང་གསར་བ་ཞིག་དང་ལམ་ཁ་གསར་བ་ཞིག་སྟོན་གྱིན་འདུག །རུལ་སུངས་ཀྱིས་སྤྱོད་ལམ་དང་སྒེར་གཅོད་ཀྱིས་ལྟ་བ་དེ་རྣམས་ང་ཚོའི་ནམ་ཡང་འཁུར་མི་འོས། འོད་ཟེར་གྱིས་ང་ཕོད་དང་པོ་སློང་དུས། དམར་པོའི་སྲིད་གཞུང་འོག་ནས་ང་ཡང་གནས་དབྱུང་ལ་བཏང་མྱང་ཡང་། དེ་ནི་ད་ཐེངས་ང་ཕོད་ཀྱི་གནས་སྟངས་ལ་བལྟས་ན་གནམ་ས་ལྟ་བུའི་ཁྱད་པར་ཡོད་ཟེར། མོ་ལ་དང་པོ་ངག་འཇམ་པོས་སྒོ་ནས་ལས་ཀ་བྱེད་སྟངས་དེ་རྒྱལ་ཁབ་ཀྱི་རྩ་ཁྲིམས་དང་མཐུན་གྱི་མི་འདུག་ཅེས་བརྗོད་པ་དང་། རྗེས་ནས་ཡང་མུ་མཐུད་དུ་ལས་ཀ་དེ་གཉེར་ན་རང་འགྲོ་དགོས་ཆགས་ཀྱི་རེད་ཅེས་ཐོག་མཐའ་བར་གསུམ་ལ་ལོ་རྒྱུས་དང་རྒྱུ་མཚན་བགྲངས་ནས་མོས་མཐུན་ཡོད་མེད་དང་བསྟུན་ཏེ་ལས་མཚམས་བཞག་བཅུག་པ་རེད་མ་གཏོགས་ང་ཕོད་ལ་ཐུབ་ཚོད་བཏང་བ་ནང་བཞིན་ཨ་རི་ཕར་ཕུད་རྒྱ་ནག་ལའང་མེད་ཟེར། དངོས་གནས་རེད། དོན་གྱི་རྒྱ་མོ་དེས་བོད་མི་རིགས་དང་བོད་མི་ལ་ཐུབ་ཚོད་དང་བརྙས་བཅོས་ཆེ་དྲག་པ་རེད། ཡིན་ནའང་རྒྱབ་ལྗོངས་བོད་པ་རང་གིས་བོད་རིགས་ལ་མཐོང་ཆུང་གཏོང་བས་བྱ་སྤྱོད་སྤེལ་བཅུག་པ་ཞིག་རེད། སྔོན་མ་༢༠༠༦ལོར་སྐྱབས་མགོན་རིན་པོ་ཆེས་རྒྱ་གར་ལྷོ་ཕྱོགས་འབྲས་སྤངས་མཆོད་རྟེན་ལ་དུས་དབང་གསུང་སྐབས་སུ་ནེའུ་ཡོག་དོན་གཅོད་ཀྱིས་སྐབས་འཚོལ་ཐབས་ལམ་བེད་སྤྱོད་བྱས་ནས་ནེའུ་ཡོག་རྒྱ་གར་གཞུང་ཚབ་ཁང་ལ་དོན་གཅོད་ཀྱིས་རྒྱབ་ནོན་མེད་ན་མཐོང་མཆན་མ་སྤྲོད་ཞུས་པས་མ་ཚད་ཡུལ་བསྐོར་མཐོང་མཆན་ཟླ་དྲུག་ཡོད་པ་དེའང་བོད་མི་ཚོ་ལ་ཟླ་གསུམ་མ་གཏོགས་སྤྲད་དགོས་ཡོད་མ་རེད་ཟེར་ནས་དོན་གྱི་རང་བཙན་ལག་དེབ་ལ་དངུལ་བསྡུ་ཐབས་གཅིག་པོ་བྱས་པ་རེད། གཟིགས་དང་དེ་ནས་བཟུང་ད་བར་བོད་མི་ལ་མཐོང་ཆུང་བྱས་ནས་ཟླ་དྲུག་གི་མཐོང་མཆན་སྒོར་མོ་$75 བསྡུས་ནས་མཐོང་མཆན་ཟླ་གསུམ་མ་གཏོགས་སྤྲོད་ཀྱི་མེད་པ་རེད། འདི་མི་རིགས་ལ་དུང་ཞེན་དང་མི་རིགས་ཀྱི་ལ་རྒྱ་བཟུང་བ་རེད་དམ། བཙན་བྱོལ་བོད་མི་རེ་རེ་ལ་དཀའ་ངལ་ག་ཚོད་འདུག །དེ་སེལ་ཐབས་ཀྱི་བསམ་བློ་དང་ལས་འགུལ་ག་རེ་སྤེལ་གྱི་འདུག །ཨ་རིས་ལོ་རེ་རེ་ལ་ཨ་སྒོར་ས་ཡ་མང་པོ་རྡ་ས་ལ་བཏང་བ་དང་གཏོང་བཞིན་པ་དེ་ཚོ་བཙན་བྱོལ་བ་རྣམས་ལ་རོགས་སྐྱོར་རེད་མ་གཏོགས་བཙན་བྱོལ་བ་རྣམས་ལ་དཀའ་ངལ་བཟོ་ཕྱིར་དུ་བཏང་བ་མ་རེད། ད་རེབ་ང་ཕོད་གནས་དབྱུང་བཏང་བ་དེས་ཨེ་རླུང་ནང་ལ་བོད་རང་བཙན་གྱི་སྐད་ཆ་མཇུག་བསྡུས་པ་ལྟ་བུར་གྱུར་ཡོད། ནམ་རྒྱུན་གཟའ་ཉི་མ་ལ་ཆབ་སྲིད་རང་དབང་གླེང་སྟེག་ཅིག་ཡོད་ཀྱང་ང་ཕོད་ཕ་ཡུལ་ལ་འགྲོ་མཚམས་དེ་ནས་མེད་པ་བཟོས་ཚར་འདུག་ཟེར། གླེང་སྟེག་དེའི་ནང་ལ་ཕྱོགས་གང་གཏོགས་ཀྱི་སྐད་ཆ་ཚང་མ་རང་དབང་ཐོག་ནས་བཤད་ཆོག་ལ་མི་སྣ་ཡང་འཇམ་ནོར་སོགས་རང་བཙན་རྩོད་མཁན་དང་མི་རྩོད་མཁན་སུ་ཡོང་ན་ཆོག་གི་ཡོད།
མཐར་འབོད་བསྐུལ་ཞིག་རྒྱུ་ནི་ད་ཐེངས་ང་ཕོད་གནས་དབྱུང་བཏང་བ་དེ་ནི་འཛམ་གླིང་སྤྱི་དང་དགོས་སུ་རྒྱ་ནག་དམར་པོའི་མདུན་ནས་བོད་མི་རང་གིས་རང་ལ་མཐོང་ཆུང་དང་བརྙས་བཅོས་ཚོད་མེད་ཅིག་ཡིན་པ་ལ་ཚང་མས་བློ་རྩེ་གཅིག་བསྒྲིལ་ངང་ནས་མདུང་རྩེ་མཉམ་གཏོད་བྱས་ཏེ་བྱ་ངན་འདི་རིགས་རྗེས་མ་མི་ཡོང་བས་ཐབས་ཤེས་ལ་བརྩོན་དགོས་པ་དང་། མི་ངན་ནང་དཀྲུག་གྱི་གཏེ་བོ་སྐལ་ལྡན་བློ་གྲོས་དང་དེ་ལ་ངན་འབྲེལ་ཡོད་མཁན་གྱི་ཁྲག་དཀྲུག་གྱི་ཐུར་མ་རྣམས་ལ་མཐའ་གཅིག་ཏུ་ངོ་རྒོལ་བྱེད་དགོས།
འདིར་ང་ལ་སྐལ་ལྡན་བློ་གྲོས་གཞུང་འབྲེལ་སྒང་ནས་འགྲུལ་བཞུད་བྱས་པས་དཔུང་རྟགས་ཡི་གེ་ཞིག་ཡོད། སྐལ་བློ་ཁོང་གིས་རྡ་གཞུང་ལ་བཀོད་སྒྲིག་ཐད་ཀྱི་ལས་བཀོད་སོགས་ཐད་ཀར་འཇིགས་མེད་པ་སངས་ལགས་ལ་བཏང་བ་ཞིག་རེད།
Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:35 AM
Kalden Lodoe
To:jigmey passang
Dear Jigmey la,
Hope this finds you well. I am sorry we didn’t have much time to talk in London. We both were very busy. This is to let you know that Libby Liu and five other computer technicians are arriving India on the 23rd. I’ve booked the meeting room at Hyatt Regency in New Delhi on the 24th.
We will depart for Bylakupee on the 25th via Bangalore. In order not to burden CTA, we are arranging our own transportations and lodging in Bylakupee, Hunsur and Mundgod. But as requested earlier, I would like the settlement officers to receive Libby Liu in an official capacity and line up all the programs. It’d be good if Libby could address public gatherings and have discussions about how best to improve RFA programs. In Mundgod, she will have an audience with His Holiness. Also, I would request if the settlement officer in Mundgod could arrange for Libby Liu to address the gathering of those who will be attending His Holiness teaching.
Here are breakdowns of the dates:
Nov, 22nd : Depart Washington, DC
Nov, 23rd : Arrive Delhi
Nov, 24th : Meeting with Sikyong, Kaydor la and other members at Hyatt Regency. I would like to propose the meeting at 10:00 AM
Nov, 25th : Depart Delhi to Bangalore. Arrive Bylakupee in the evening
Nov, 26th : Touring and public engagements in Bylakupee, including Sera and other monasteries
Nov, 27th : Depart for Hunsur, spend the night in Hunsur
Nov, 28th : Depart for Mundgod
Nov, 29th : Mundgod
Nov, 30th : Mundgod attend teachings (Please arrange VIP badges for 7 people including myself).
Dec, 1st : Mundgod attend teachings
Dec, 2nd : Depart for Bangalore and proceed to Burma
Please do keep me updated.
Regards,
Kalden Lodoe
All the fuss should remind everyone of the Reting era, after the 13th DL. The only difference is between a closed society and the digitally-connected yet socially-fragmented Tibetan “community”. Indeed, it bodes ill for what will transpire after the 14th DL for your Cause–should there continue to be one or even two “Causes” at all. IMHO, Tibetans need a strong leader like the Great Fifth or the Thirteenth–leaders that existed only briefly in the long history after 853 AD. “Democracy” may sound great and uplifting, but it is such a luxury for a people whose history lacked stable and effective institutions of governance.
come on people! what’s the matter somebody was fired. Is it that important? people hire and fire, it is human natural, isn’t it? But its little disappointment with some people here in this room because they condemned Central Tibetan administration.I think this is baseless condemned with CTA. I think Ngaba Jigme is good person, but I don’t think he can handle RFA’s job, because in the past sixteen years nothing has improved the programs. also Tibetan language on the Web, no one can read and there is no correct grammar, no correct spell, and nothing mean the Tibetan write news on the Web. it is real shameful. I hope the us congress man did not read Tibetan news on the Web page.
We are slowly but steadily getting to handle this sad, yet unvoidble episode; but it will be awhile before we can get a firm grip. Many, who know more,I suspect, are still holing on…Time takes its time, but it reveal itself before it becomes to late.
སྤུལ་སྐུ་དབང་ཆེན་ལཌ།
ཁྱེད་ཀྱི་གོང་དུ་བོད་ཡིག་ཐོག་འགྲེལ་བརྗོད་གནང་པ་དེ་བཞིན་ཨིན་སྐད་དུ་འགྱུར་གནང་ན་གང་ལེགས་ཡོང། ཐུགས་རྗེ་ཆེ།
Yes, I agree with pasang Tempa # 65’s comment on newgenerations #97. This topic is regarding freedom of speech and democracy among the Tibetans inside and outside, fairness to all freedom loving people, who care and try to promote unity, integrity, justice for all. You bring unrelated, bias and unfounded none sense on Jamyang Norbu and his Kudra cousin. For your own information, if you care to know, they are not even in speaking term to this day for many years. Why you bring this unrelated subject? besides, read the true history and facts, Kudra has kept and refined the Tibetan civilization and promoted in all levels and contributed much and led Tibetan cause at forefront. Not bunch of craps you read from Chinese communist. You are dividing Tibetan within and not helping Tibetan cause, which side are you on, Tibetan side or Chinese side? I feel sick to my stomach reading comment like yours…..
Hello,Mr kalden lodoe, People in Tibet barning themself for Tibet, How could you do this.I think we Tibetan people must take this seriouse issu.
This kind of problems happened in 1950s in Tibet.Reting and Tadrak played same game like this.Many Tibetan official were involved in that dirty game and some even used chinese against on our own people. they asked china to reinforce.But finally china claimed Tibet as their taritory.Both Reting and Tadrak lost every thing the had, not only that 6 million Tibetan people also had to lost our country.So we must clean this dirty game from the root of our society. I think it is in our blood, so should clean it up before it’s too late.
I really don’t understand why Jamyang Norbu la is always dedicated about criticizing our own small exile government and its leaders in name of “Mang-Tso” and “Rang-zen” and Why he is always trying to misguide younger generation with self created information. I really wonder who is behind him and under whose finger, is he really working for? I think there should be limit in criticizing or bringing conflict in our small exile communities. What has he really achieved so far?
First of all, I thank for Jamyang Norbu la that he stood up for the rights and freedom of speech. We Tibetan need change in our society, we cann’t continue the same regime as past and people shoudn’t be talking on bias. being that way tibet was lost as a consequence. So, never stop or accuse when some people like Mr. Jamyang norbu stood up for freedom and good cause for tibet and the world. Wake up Tibetan youngster, stand up for truth and freedom of speech. i think some tibetan have not learn the lesson from the past and still sleeping… Once again, Jamyang Norbu la thank you and keep going… On behalf of pro-democracy and supporter of freedom of speech, I appreciate your views and may God bless you.
What is freedom of speech? ?????
Is it to disrespect your parent,,,,,,,?
Is it to disrespect your elders,,,,,,,,?
Is it to disrespect your own government,,,,,,?
Is it to disrespect your own elected leaders,,,,,,,?
Is it to disrespect your countrymen,,,,,,,,,,?
Is it to disrespect our one and only most grateful spiritual leader?
I truly agree that we all need Freedom of Speech,,,but is it really ok to use it to create conflict in our society? ,,,,,to create misunderstanding?,,,,,,,to create commotion?,,,,,to create disturbances?,,,,,,,,,to misguide younger generation? After all, what have we gained with such Freedom of speech? What changes have it made for our couse? What kind of positive results have we received from his freedom of speech? How many of our Tibetan people have benefit from his freedom of speech? How many of our Tibetan people are now happier with his freedom of speech?
Really I am not trying to be a bias,,,,,,,I truly speak whole heartedly without any negative intention. But it is time for us to think carefully and open our two big eyes to see who is really doing something more than just writing some articles in English. We have to be more practical and it is really not time for us to criticize each other in the name of Freedom of Speech, when our brothers and sisters are still burning in Tibet. Please wake up!!
Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted in 1948, states that:
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”[6]
Today freedom of speech, or the freedom of expression, is recognized in international and regional human rights law. The right is enshrined in Article 19 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights, Article 13 of the American Convention on Human Rights and Article 9 of the African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights.[7] Based on John Milton’s arguments, freedom of speech is understood as a multi-faceted right that includes not only the right to express, or disseminate, information and ideas, but three further distinct aspects:
the right to seek information and ideas;
the right to receive information and ideas;
the right to impart information and ideas.[7]
Disrespect doesn’t have anything to do with it. You are allowed to disrespect all you want. It is protected by the law. The only two restictions are hate speech and slander, I believe. Even then, I have myself observed police protecting racist KKK members from the crowd and understood even they have the right to protest peacefully. I have observed bile mouthed muslim clerics declaring death to westerns on the street protected by western secular principles. So on and so forth.
Right and responsibility are two sides of the same coin.At present,we have no country and our brothers and sisters are tortured under repressive rule of CCP.I sincerly think this is not the time to fight for our rights of speech living in free country where it is granted.In china CCP suppressed free speech and our bros and sisters live there risk their life to express their true feeling of freedom in tibet and return of HH The Dalai Lama.Upto now so many had already self-immolated themselves for the cause of Tibet and tibetans.WE should talk about our responsibilities towards them.
I feel those of us talk about rights are selfish beings who lived in free country away from the CCP rule who even butchered their own kith and kin in 1989 tianamen square.Now they are butchering tibetans in tibet.They shut the tibet to outside world.
After reading all these comments,,,,,,,,,I have to agree with NY no 16, who has well said about few of the fact that we all need to know. I would like to request you all to ask yourself one simple question that What really has Jamyang Norbu done so far for the couse of our countryith ????????????
Jamayangla,
Keep up the good work! You are an inspiration to the thousands of younger generation Tibetans, who have grown up both in India and the West(countries that are leading advocates for freedom of speech and transparency in the media).
I am not surprised of the ignorance of the many commentators, whose views disfavour open minded discussions.
Keep writing because you are a leading activist for Tibetan freedom of speech and accountability in the democratic process of the TGIE.
Jamyang la, keep up the transparency and free speech. Keep our government answerable to the people for whatever actions they take, after all they are elected representatives of the Tibetan people and are there to serve the people and nation. Much appreciation to you for your brave stand on these issues. Never falter in the face of adversity and always stand up to these bullying tactics employed by ignorant representatives of our people. Bod Rangzen, Free Tibet!!!
Shame on Kalden lodoe !
http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=29783&t=1
JN You are not helping Tibetan cause instead you are helping Chinese by writing all these articles about RFA and showing pictures of His Holiness
You are playing in to Chinese ploy. They want you and your supporter to ask Rangzen so that they can blame Dalai Lama asking for middle path is ploy for Rangzen (Chinese are saying you are asking middle path and your people are asking for Free Tibet)so they can delay any action on Tibet
By the way RFA is not free press it is US govt.’s propaganda for democracy in Asia.
Tashi,the world will be more understanding of a cause where there are differences of opinion within the people and not dogmatic like ccp china- my way or the high way kinda thing.
# 125 – Yeah – we shoulda ‘got’ it by now. So also for VOICE OF AMERICA/Tibet and all other Asian stations.
Thank you US of A for showing us the path to Free Press & Democracy through these ‘soft power’ channels.
Therefore these debates.
I don’t know what nation and it’s people would ever consider giving up it’s sovereignity. It is a disgrace that we have come to this stage where our exile adminstration and its supporters have renounced our goal of independence. We are the only people on this planet that have this skewed loser mentality of wanting to live under a communist China that has raped and plundered our country. That says alot about our kind. We just never learn, that is exactly why we have never gotten ahead with our case with China since occupation. Wake people and smell the Chingdang!!
The so-calleld ‘world-wide search’ to replace the ousted RFA Tibetn Service chief, has a third name floating now. That is for Samdhong Rinpoche’s representative in England-Thupten Samdup.
Also, if the long blog-appel in Tibetan by an
undisclosed Tibetan group is true to its allegtions, including financial irregularites, involving millions of dollars,committed by Libby and BBG’s Michael Mehan, both the institutions are in big trouble. No wander Libby was criss-crossing USA, India, and Burma for what and what expense!
And this guy, Kalden, has taken all those talking heads for a ride which they are finding it hard to disown. Saddest things is, no one now thinks, that His Holiness is kept in the dark. Ultimately, he will have to, willing or not, reign in. That seems to be only solution as of now if CTA’s damaged image is to be put under check.
The damage caused by the Syikong’s rash answer coupled by the legislature chairs’ uncalled for arrogant free-for-all letter, as well as mobilizing the Tibetan communities in North by the representative to malign the US Congressman cannot be repaired.
One prays that CTA is not caught in the web of RFA/BBG financial scandle when its sees the light of the day!
The failure of a not so simple Buddhist monk
2009-Mar-16 Mon
The 14th Dalai Lama often says, “I am just a simple Buddhist monk – no more, no less.” His Holiness is anything but that – for on the surface he is the very embodiment of worldly success. All his life, he has been, and continues to be, courted, supported, honored, and promoted globally by Western interest groups.
He commands global attention for two reasons: first he, against China’s interests, willingly serves the diverse and complex political and economic interests of the West; second, the novel mystical Tantric spirituality he represents dovetails with the unbearable, deepening religious void of many Western souls.
The 14th Dalai Lama’s predecessor, the 13th Dalai Lama, sought exile in British India, where he served as an agent for the British against China’s central government during the Qing and Kuomintang reign.
His friend and biographer, Sir Charles Bell, a career diplomat of the British Raj, was deeply influenced by the 13th Dalai Lama’s spirituality.
Currently, some Westerners use the Dalai Lama to launder their dirty laundry against China and to purify their vacuous souls.
On the other hand, the Dalai Lama needs the West to bring his modified theocracy and his flock back to Tibet and to achieve de facto Tibetan independence, by outmaneuvering the central government in Beijing. The Dalai-West connection is a relationship of mutual back scratching. The Dalai Lama is not “a simple Buddhist monk” after all.
Ironically, despite the Dalai Lama’s enormous worldy success, the support of Western interests, the implementation of his so-called Middle-Way policy, and the maintenance by China of an open door posture, the Dalai Lama has yet to secure a “welcome back” invitation from Beijing. Why?
For his embarrassment, the Dalai Lama has a ready answer – China is evil. This evil characterization precisely fits the West’s anti-China bent. In his March 10 speech to mark the 50th anniversary of the so-called “failed Tibetan uprising,” the Dalai Lama claimed that, for the past 50 years, Beijing has caused Tibetans “untold suffering” and forced them to live in “hell on earth”. This is hardly the rhetoric of the Bodhisattva of Compassion, incarnated to save all suffering souls, even the “hated Han Chinese”.
A quick listen to the “hell on earth” rhetoric (look, for example, into how, in 25 years, a Tibetan teacher turned a 20,000-yuan unsecured government loan into a 40-million yuan industry: Tibet Dashi Group Co Ltd.) would lead one to conclude that the Dalai Lama has an active imagination predisposed to the drama of negativity.
Or, less charitably, one might say that he simply lies, an unbecoming act for a spiritual leader of his, or any, stature. Interestingly, the resultant spiritual demerit may strip the Dalai Lama of his Bodhisattva status and preclude the incarnation of a 15th Dalai Lama.
Then there is the issue of angry Tibetan youth. Born and raised outside of Tibet and alienated culturally, religiously, and socially, they turn their anger on Beijing and seek absolute Tibetan independence, even if it means violence of the Taliban-type (the violent March 14, 2008 Lhasa incident is a case in point). The Dalai’s silence on this matter constitutes tacit approval, so when such violence erupts, he must bear full responsibility.
Why the Dalai Lama fails
Assuming that the Dalai Lama really wants to return to Tibet, what then are the real reasons for his failure to do so? Three reasons spring to mind. First, he is not China oriented. Second, the Dalai Lama does not understand the New China of which he wants to be a part. Third, he is in the service of the West’s imperialist and post-imperialist interests against China.
The Dalai Lama’s fundamental orientation is the West, not China, as shown by the kind of people he trusts. Two of the Dalai Lama’s brothers worked for the CIA. According to ABC News, his older brother, Taktser Rinpoche, a close advisor, was “a Buddhist monk turned CIA translator who helped train Tibetan resistance fighters in a guerrilla war against Chinese rule”, perhaps at the CIA’s Colorado training grounds (September 6, 2008). Recently, the Dalai Lama’s two trusted representatives at talks with Beijing were not even China experts. Lodi Gyari looks after the Dalai Lama’s interest in Washington, and Kelsang Gyaltsen oversees operations in Europe.
All Dalai Lama dealings with Beijing have a Western veneer. The lack of a genuine Chinese perspective is the Dalai Lama’s fundamental weakness.
Secondly, he does not understand what China, by definition, is about. For example, he does not seem to appreciate the fact that China is a big family made up of many separate but equal ethnicities of varying size and cultural characteristics.
Out of 56 ethnic groups, the five-star Chinese flag can only accommodate the top five, of which the Tibetan ethnicity is one. The others are Han, Mongolian, Manchurian, and Muslim.
China must protect and promote the culture of each of its ethnic groups. For example, China helped 12 minority groups develop written languages and helped five others improve their existing languages. Tibetan culture and language receive the same protection and promotion.
For 150 years China has been fighting imperialism. Notable events include the 1900 Boxer Uprising and the War of Resistance against Japanese Aggression. The Dalai Lama should know but he does not seem to remember these fights for survival. In the Seventeen-Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet (1951) document signed by the Dalai Lama’s representatives, point one states: “The Tibetan People shall be united and drive out imperialist forces from Tibet; that the Tibetan people shall return to the big family of the motherland – the People’s Republic of China.” As the Dalai Lama’s career moves away from what point one requires, how then does he expect to “return to the big family?”
At the March 12, 2009 press meeting, Premier Wen Jiabao again reiterated the central government’s open door posture regarding future dialogue with the Dalai Lama. It appears that a meaningful “return to the big family” for the Dalai Lama will depend on whether he accepts point one of the 1951 document.
For the Dalai Lama the door back to China will always be open if he approaches it properly.
The author teaches philosophy in the United States.
Liability:Cheryl Zhang
Source:China Daily
I think china will be happpy with your support.
what’s kalden lodoe cooking now?
DORDAM59, speaking of China Daily, my chinese neighbor who lives few doors down from my apt collects them. He has a whole stack. I was only too happy to receive some of the extras he was giving away, especially, as on that day I ran out of toilet papers.
I found out first hand that China Daily has incredible absorbent powers. Google says, that’s because their paper is made of the same material as Pampers diaper. Cheap toilet papers are so much inferior IMO.
Seriously, if you ever have a bad diarrhea like I did, get your hands on some China Daily Propagandus, your ass will thank you.
I don’t know what Kalden Lodoe is cooking up but there is a rumor coming out of Dharamsala that Mr Lobsang Wangyal, the Creator of Miss Tibet and Miss Himalaya pageants is resting comfortably in a New Delhi hospital after a successful sex change operation.
He even managed to send out a brief comment; “I want to thank all my fans for their support and want to also announce the happy news that I will personally be competing in the next Miss Tibet contest which will be held in Bylakuppe in a month’s time. I will begin serious training just as soon as my vagina heals.”
That Transsexual Lobsang Wangyal wants to organize a Tibetan beauty contest this year when 96 Tibetans have self-immolated? What a shameless prick! I hope the people of bylakuppe boycott this ridiculous event and throw shoes at his filthy chauvinist mouth. We respect our martyrs and Heroes. Just today a young man self- immolated. I hope our people have more respect and dignity. Tibetan women’s association should tar and feather him and kick him out of Bylakuppe riding a donkey backwards.
So brave of Lobsang Wangyal to undergo the sex change..Good for you Madam..I hope you will have a swift recovery. For@134 There are times when we mourn and life should keep going. If you dont agree with Madam Lobsang organizing beauty pagent, I respect that opinion, but stop belittling Madam Wangyal.
last I heard about Kalden Lodoe is that he and Lobsang Jinpa( Private Office HHDL) are collecting donations to built Virginia Tibet Center.
I think the use of MWP and Independence dichotomy to explain the Nabgo la issue is pathetic. It is shameful to play politics using the two approaches. In fact, both approaches are right in their own place. Although I believe in MWP but I respect those who believe in independence. We need to resolve Tibet issue using both approaches. If Nabgo la’s issue revolves around such conflict of approaches, I think, both the Ngabo la and CTA leadership including Jayang Norbu la’s should feel sorry and forget all differences to unite against PRC.